Re: **SPAM** Re: [cobalt-users] XBL listing

[Surfbaud <error404@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 10:30 02/05/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> At 04:05 PM 02/05/02 +0100, you wrote:
> > Anyone who does NOT automatically, immediately and permanently boot 
> > anyone who spams is supporting spam and deserved to be blacklisted until 
> > they learn that such behaviour is unacceptable.
>
> What about somebody who gets hacked and their equipment is used for spamming?

tough, his equipment, he is responsible for securing it.... unless of 
course he has a service contract with you...


> I have a client who is on dial up, he got a trojan and was sending well 
> over 5000 messages per hour for 2 days before he found out.

at least, that was his excuse.....  5000 messages an hour for 48 hours and 
he didn't notice the machine or the connection was sluggish?
some dial up

>  He was booted from his ISP and had to threaten to sue in order to get 
> back in.

ooh, I love cartooney threats, se he sues the ISP for 20 bucks for his dial 
up, and loses as soon as the judge reads the ISP T&C, and the ISP sues him 
for 4 techs x 8 hours a day for 5 days @ 200 bucks an hour ( $32,000 ) for 
cleanup costs and wins as soon as the judge reads the T&C


> They should have at least contacted him to let him know there was a problem.

why? where does it say that in the T&C? I have never seen such a clause....


> Needless to say, he now knows what a personal firewall is :)

even the best firewall won't protect him, trojans don't install themselves 
by and large, idiots download shit and run it and just click yes on every 
dialog box, so the idiot sees ZA popup and ask if he wants WinNT.infis to 
access the internet, the idiot is going to assume it is part of the OS and 
click yes.......
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