At 07:23 02/05/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Jeff and the over-extreme, I would have to agree Jeff. Seems a little extreme. We received an email from someone claiming one of my clients had spammed them. He stated he was going to turn us in to a blacklist. I noticed the trace he did, which he sent and the headers went to some place in California, it wasn't even close to being us or one of my clients. I had to exchange 5 emails to get him to realize he was blaming the wrong people. I guess my point is, some of these list, and accusers are very shoot first and maybe ask questions later. If I had not responded to this other guy, or been out and my staff didn't know how or have auth. To handle, I may have been on a list, and I wasn't even the culprit.
absolute rubbish, the people who administer these blocklists are *extremely* responsible and competent sysadmins, to even suggest that they would add you to a blocklist just because some luser asked them to is ridiculous.....
besides which, there are sufficient channels for communication of these issues, if people choose not to use them that is their problem...
FWIW in 3 years of subscribing to said channels, despite an average of mebbe 10 complaints a day, often associated with cartooney legal threats, I honestly cannot recall a single incident where the listing was unjust... I repeat, ***NOBODY*** gets added to a list just because some luser complains
SPEWS is slightly different, it will list the ISP IP block if they do not kick the spammers, and if that doesn't work then eventually the block is expanded to include said ISP upstream, ***AFTER*** the upstream has had a chance to deal with the matter... and getting out of SPEWS is simple, stop spamming.... never getting in SPEWS is even easier, don't spam in the first place.
Only spammers and those who take their money in exchange for "bulletproof hosting" get listed.
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