At 16:26 02/05/2002 -0400, you wrote:
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Surfbaud wrote: > > Only spammers and those who take their money in exchange for "bulletproof > hosting" get listed. THat's not true...since SPEWS will list an entire block, it's possible that folks who are not spammers and not offering "bulletproof hosting" will get listed.
that IS true, spews only lists spam houses who will wriggle and squirm and give their spammers a different IP to curcumvent rbl and so on and so forth, and of course spam houses who take on known professional spammers who never do anything but spam....
if you are in a situation where you are not a spammer but the guy next up on the same rack is then vote with your wallet and take your colo out of that host if they won't boot the spammer(s) to so that they can actually deliver the services they contracted to deliver to you...
And, save us all bandwidth, no one needs to read your post on fortunes made and lost, bleeding heart liberals, crack neighborhoods, etc. If you are going defend SPEWS, you shouldn't make statements that picture them as less Draconian then they are.
and if you are going to defend spam you shouldn't make statements that portray spews as less just and less effective than it is.
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