Re: **SPAM** Re: [cobalt-users] XBL listing (was: New FormMail script)

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On Thu, 2 May 2002, Surfbaud wrote:

> >THat's not true...since SPEWS will list an entire block, it's possible
> >that folks who are not spammers and not offering "bulletproof hosting"
> >will get listed.
>
> that IS true, spews only lists spam houses who will wriggle and squirm and
> give their spammers a different IP to curcumvent rbl and so on and so
> forth, and of course spam houses who take on known professional spammers
> who never do anything but spam....

Horse Effulent.

I know of at least one instance where spews listed an entire block of
addresses because they are next to the block with what they consider to be
a spammer....and to add insult to injury, the spammer they claim to be in
net block abc isn't there...so the blocking of netblocks abd and abe are
totally off base,since they are not owned/controlled/issued to the same
organization that hosted the spammer.

>
> and if you are going to defend spam you shouldn't make statements that
> portray spews as less just and less effective than it is.

Don't even attempt to put words in my mouth...I never defended spam nor
did I say SPEWS is not effective...I simply said not only is it Draconian,
but also inaccurate.

Thom