Re: [cobalt-users] Get me off the ORBS list

["Kevin D" <kdlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This ORBS stuff is pretty bad. I myself only very rarely block an
entire mail server - only as an absolute last resort (ie contacting the
server postmaster fails, no single email address to block, etc).

Is there any legal action you could take? It seems that if the ORBS people
don't have any proof of abuse then they are unfairly characterizing you -
and that sounds to me like slander. Think of the potential lost revenue if
customers realize that your server can't deliver their mail, all because
of
some unproven accusations. I think a class action suit might be
appropriate.

Kevin

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carrie Linn Bartkowiak" <ravencarrie@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Get me off the ORBS list
>
>
> >
> > > Great, now ORBS is searching for "potential" spamming servers now and
> not
> > just tagging ones known for spamming.
> >
> > That was my first thought, too!
> > How wonderful it is for ORBS to be putting out a list of machines which
> > aren't entirely protected... gee, the spammers probably pay good money
to
> > get a hold of that list, since they don't have to do the work
themselves!
> >
> > Okay, so how can we avoid this?  I, too, don't allow anyone to relay
mail
> > through the server *except* for myself in *rare* cases - I require my
> > clients to use their home ISP and I also use my home ISP; what's good
for
> > the goose is good for the gander.
> > However, sendmail can of course send stuff out that originates from the
> > sites on the server.
> >
> > So would a good preventative measure to this be to enable the smart
relay?
> > Is there a way to keep Sendmail closed to *all* outside mail and just
> > deliver what comes off of the sites?
> >
> > >Somebody has got to get rid of this ORBS crap,
> >
> > JC I agree there... when it was just proven spammers it was a different
> > story, but now that they're blacklisting INNOCENT servers as well it's
> just
> > plain wrong. Millions of people in different races and religions have
died
> > because of this exact sort of bull$hit.  Just because I have the
> capability
> > to send mail doesn't mean I'm going to allow spammers to use my server
and
> > won't take every legal action should I find one doing just that.
> >
> > Carrie Bartkowiak
> >
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