Re: [cobalt-users] Re: looking at a site before domain is transferred

[Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Carrie Bartkowiak wrote:

> If you've been following my questions on the shared SSL here on the list,
> we've shown that you don't need a dedicated IP to use SSL, you can share the
> server's SSL certificate. *That* is what I meant - that it's not truly
> necessary to have a dedicated IP because you can still share.

While I agree that the post you responded to was quite vague, as was
Daniel's reply, a thorough reading of your post and the preceding one
tells me that you were referring to using SSL for a specific site. 
Which you cannot do with SSL.  What you can do is let someone else share
your site, but that's not the same thing at all.

You are aware, I'm sure, that the Certificate Vendors' contracts you
agree to all say that you cannot share your certificate, right?  (Except
of course if you buy a wildcat cert at bit heftier price, and even then
you're stuck with subdomains.)

> With the Anonymous FTP, that *is* my mistake. I had read that only one site
> can have AnonFTP. I figured sites sharing an IP could also share an AnonFTP
> space. No one has requested that of me though, and I haven't tested it out
> myself. Based on what you're saying I take it that's not so... I'd probably
> have to do a lot of configuring to allow the other sites to access the
> AnonFTP directory and it would be better just to give them their own IP and
> be done with it. Correct?

Never tried, never would.  A lot of work went into FTP.  As I said
before, if you can figure out a way to do it, please do, and write the
RFC.

> Things work a lot better if you know where I'm coming from, the flaming tone
> isn't necessary.  I'll readily admit where I've made a mistake and tell you
> what I was thinking.

Do you admit that you were twisting meanings; that sharing a site isn't
at all the same thing as sharing an IP# between sites?

And, oh, if you think that was a flame, then forget about writing any
RFCs; if you try to pass on sharing a site as sharing an IP#, the
Internet community will be quite unmerciful.

No, I'm not trying to flame you, or to put you down.  Even my last
parenthetical sentence wasn't meant to be a flame, but an honest
statement of how I feel.  I do have a dry (and wry) sense of humor, I've
been told; I apologize if it offended you.

> As for my comments on CobaltRacks, Sam Moats has put out an open offer to
> set up a server and let you test CR's services. If I have a question he's
> got an answer to me in 5 minutes - any time of the day. I'm starting to be
> convinced that he doesn't sleep. If you don't trust me or my inexperience,
> try it for yourself.

I've actually talked to the people at Cobalt Racks; I'm now waiting for
responses from several people I've written to offlist, who have posted
both pro- and con-Cobalt Racks opinions in various lists.  I was only
pointing to you that as of this post, and until you clarify how you mean
things (which to me anyway, you still haven't done), unfortunately I
can't accept your other comments at face value either.

Kind of like the way Al Gore exaggerates, I guess <smile>.

Jeff
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