Re: [cobalt-users] Re: looking at a site before domain is transferred

["Mark Baker - Cobalt Lists" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Jeff, your writing a lot today aren't you??

Regards,

Mark Baker
http://www.yoursitehere.co.uk

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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Re: looking at a site before domain is
transferred


> Carrie Bartkowiak wrote:
>
> > If you've been following my questions on the shared SSL here on the
list,
> > we've shown that you don't need a dedicated IP to use SSL, you can share
the
> > server's SSL certificate. *That* is what I meant - that it's not truly
> > necessary to have a dedicated IP because you can still share.
>
> While I agree that the post you responded to was quite vague, as was
> Daniel's reply, a thorough reading of your post and the preceding one
> tells me that you were referring to using SSL for a specific site.
> Which you cannot do with SSL.  What you can do is let someone else share
> your site, but that's not the same thing at all.
>
> You are aware, I'm sure, that the Certificate Vendors' contracts you
> agree to all say that you cannot share your certificate, right?  (Except
> of course if you buy a wildcat cert at bit heftier price, and even then
> you're stuck with subdomains.)
>
> > With the Anonymous FTP, that *is* my mistake. I had read that only one
site
> > can have AnonFTP. I figured sites sharing an IP could also share an
AnonFTP
> > space. No one has requested that of me though, and I haven't tested it
out
> > myself. Based on what you're saying I take it that's not so... I'd
probably
> > have to do a lot of configuring to allow the other sites to access the
> > AnonFTP directory and it would be better just to give them their own IP
and
> > be done with it. Correct?
>
> Never tried, never would.  A lot of work went into FTP.  As I said
> before, if you can figure out a way to do it, please do, and write the
> RFC.
>
> > Things work a lot better if you know where I'm coming from, the flaming
tone
> > isn't necessary.  I'll readily admit where I've made a mistake and tell
you
> > what I was thinking.
>
> Do you admit that you were twisting meanings; that sharing a site isn't
> at all the same thing as sharing an IP# between sites?
>
> And, oh, if you think that was a flame, then forget about writing any
> RFCs; if you try to pass on sharing a site as sharing an IP#, the
> Internet community will be quite unmerciful.
>
> No, I'm not trying to flame you, or to put you down.  Even my last
> parenthetical sentence wasn't meant to be a flame, but an honest
> statement of how I feel.  I do have a dry (and wry) sense of humor, I've
> been told; I apologize if it offended you.
>
> > As for my comments on CobaltRacks, Sam Moats has put out an open offer
to
> > set up a server and let you test CR's services. If I have a question
he's
> > got an answer to me in 5 minutes - any time of the day. I'm starting to
be
> > convinced that he doesn't sleep. If you don't trust me or my
inexperience,
> > try it for yourself.
>
> I've actually talked to the people at Cobalt Racks; I'm now waiting for
> responses from several people I've written to offlist, who have posted
> both pro- and con-Cobalt Racks opinions in various lists.  I was only
> pointing to you that as of this post, and until you clarify how you mean
> things (which to me anyway, you still haven't done), unfortunately I
> can't accept your other comments at face value either.
>
> Kind of like the way Al Gore exaggerates, I guess <smile>.
>
> Jeff
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