Re: [cobalt-users] Alliance Of Operators

["Mike's List" <mikelist@xxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Mike Smith wrote:

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> What I fail to understand about some of the larger ISP's is that they
> allow UCE through their networks - and since many of us tend to block
> IP's/domains from where UCE originates - sooner or later it would seem
> that many of the these ISP's would be blocked from large sectors of the
> internet, and their "normal" clients would wonder why their mail is
> either rejected or never reaches intended recipients. When will these
> large ISP's learn? As I had stated a few weeks ago, our company
> actually changed long distance providers after going round & round with
> a well-known long distance/ISP that didn't (or wouldn't) do anything
> about UCE orginating from their network.

Because the larger provider have to let "everything" in and leave it
to the little provider. ie. customer A having problem with certain class
C, but customer B wants that particular class C.  However, that class C
was spoof by someone to attack customer A...and so on and so on, you
can't do it at the larger ISP, it's up to the customers/ISPs.
 
> I still feel that the solution to UCE lies within the industry. We
> simply can't afford for our governments to step in and attempt to do
> something about it.

Plenty of sites already, it's not that everyone is just sitting around
and doing nothing...cdt.org for privacy, ordb.org to test open relay and
setup your mail software to filter via their database --and tons of other
sites/forums regarding spams located at ordb.

As Steve puts it, if you want to recruit sysadmins here to join one of the
many sites/forums that's fine, no sense in forming another group for this
particular topic.  This is a cobalt mailing list, we don't need another
"cobalt-admin-spam-eliminator" (C.A.S.E) <tm> ;) forum/list.


- Mike