RE: [cobalt-users] commercial list use (Re: [RaQ3] Need PHPpackage for original RaQ3...)

["Dan Kriwitsky" <list1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Or have been around long enough and made enough posts to know 
> what happens.  Note the ***if they had any pitches*** part. 
> Considering the lack of public response from others, the 
> logical conclusion is that any other contact was made 
> off-list.  Thanks for playing.

Or, there was no contact or reply is the logical conclusion. I don't
assume something happened because something else didn't happen.

> 
> 
> DK> post Jeff replied to wasn't the only RaQ3 user that might at some 
> DK> point be looking for a PHP/MySQL package that's only 
> available for 
> DK> $$.
> 
> Indeed.  And others will see the post in the archive.  If 
> everyone capable of offering something posts on-list, the 
> lists get overrun with noise.

As I said, everyone that actually contributes to the list making the
occasional pitch, I have no problem with it and the list admin clearly
explained it in
http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2002-June/071664.html

> 
> DK> 
> http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2002-June/071664.html
> 
> I'd not go so far as to say "clearly fall within".  In fact, 
> no free help was given, the message was entirely commercial, 
> and details were being given on-list.

I disagree. The poster asked about a package for the RaQ3. 
non-commercial: There is no official free package.
commercial: I offer it and can install it for $X.
Maybe Jeff could have left that part off, but I'm sure some people might
not contact him because he quoted a price that they may find expensive
so he saved himself and them some time. If you take over the list, you
can censor the posts for such content.

> 
> No, I am not.  If someone else claims to offer colo, yet the 
> network can be taken down by an errant/malicious 
> configuration, I'll point that out, too.  I'll point out when 
> someone is at a facility that has not done their 
> infrastructure homework.  I've done so in the past, and 
> probably will do so again.

Didn't you just say Jeff didn't make that pitch on this list?

> 
> Maybe it was another list.  I didn't keep track of it, and 
> frankly am not too concerned about it.

Your posts indicate the opposite.

>  We've exchanged both 
> kind words and scoldings both on- and off-list.
> 
> If Jeff disagrees with me, he's more than welcome to return 
> the favor and tell me off.

Maybe his definition of netiquette precludes such posts.

-- 
Dan Kriwitsky

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