Re: [cobalt-users] commercial list use (Re: [RaQ3] Need PHP packagefor original RaQ3...)

["E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

JL> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:26:21 -0800
JL> From: Jeff Lasman


JL> Great idea.  My post would have been longer, and would have
JL> required that anyone interested would have had to take more
JL> time to find out details which were left out.
JL>
JL> Nevertheless, I'll keep this method in mind, and may very
JL> well switch to it when the occasion warrants.

Maybe (hopefully) this list is different than the isp-* lists.
But any time someone starts posting pricing (which I believed was
in the "forbidden" category), it tempts others to do the same.

Then again, several people posting pricing might have been better
than a flame war. :-/


JL> > Difference:  Your "claim" has no basis in fact.  Jeff has noted
JL> > publicly the problems to which I refer.
JL>
JL> I claim publicly that I don't offer private networks, which I don't.  I
JL> never claimed my network was unstable, which you did, and which it
JL> isn't.  Network uptime is over 99.999%  I only wish my servers were as
JL> good.

Okay... I see why you took offense.

1. I consider shared ethernet segments a flaw.  Many other
   security-minded people agree for the reasons I've mentioned.
   It's even worse when dealing with vulnerable systems... and
   there are waaay too many for my liking.

2. Your network has indeed had excellent uptime as far as I know,
   and I'd not debate that.  However, banking on luck is risky.
   Again, it's like saying, "I've done just fine running red
   lights without wearing seatbelts."


Eddy
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