At 19:44 21/04/2002 +0000, you wrote:
JL> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:39:12 -0700 JL> From: Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [ snipped a bit... and let's fork the thread, folks! ] JL> Anyone who chooses to block on the originating IP# to the JL> machine, knowing that it's in an aDSL block with DHCP JL> allocation, is just being foolish. I disagree. Once spammers learned that using an MX left a log trail, they began spamming direct-to-MX from dialups, DSL, and cable. Few people have a valid reason for not using their provider's MX.
agreed, and blocking single offending IP's no longer works either because the pink contract just shift them around, hence the popularity of spews
the comment was also made that using these extreme block lists must mean that a significant proportion of legitimate mail gets filtered, this just is not the case, and I have and do check...
the user in question on this list is hit twice by my filters, once because of their xdsl connection, and once because of the domain, which is on the same uunet block as some of the worst spammers in chrisendom, however when I check the cobalt list that makes it through my filters with the totally unfiltered and unexpurgated list I do not find a significant percentage of posts or users missing, only one user was filtered....
so it is a fallacy that using severe block lists impairs your e-mail functionality, UNLESS you live in a spam friendly IP range, and if you live in a spamhaus and choose not to move then you deserve everything you get in my book
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