Re: [cobalt-users] Pop before SMTP - I've had enough.

[Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Revd leonard payne wrote:

> Today I got a report from outside, that their Box reported that they couldnt
> send me my regular mailing because they got
> 
> Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 <leonard.payne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>... Relaying
> denied.  Please check your mail first.

Their box contacted your box and YOUR box told them it couldn't relay to
you?  That's got NOTHING to do with POP before SMTP.  Your box is happy
to accept email FOR you.  If you'd have put your address into the post,
we could have tested and you'd have an answer by now.  Please don't
bother to send me your ereal address in a private email, I'm happy to
help at no charge on the list, but helping people privately is my
business and I do charge for that (much of the time <smile>).

Here's how to do it to avoid spammers picking it up form the list or the
archives:

<lenoardNOSPAM.payne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

We know to take out the "NOSPAM" before we test; we've done this for
years now <smile>.

> Thats like the cobalt-users list being told by my machine to check their
> mail first.

Can anyone else send  you email at leonard.payne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?  If
so, then it's NOT the problem.

If not, then for some reason your box thinks it's no longer
authoritative for your domain, and that's going to require some research
<frown>.

> Any ideas ??

Yes.  Give us a real address, so we can help you <smile>.

> Pop before smtp is turned OFF

That's pretty much impossible the way the RaQ is set up <frown>.  I know
there's a setting for it; I've never been able to make it work.

> sendmail.cf has been renamed  sendmail.cf.old
> 
> sendmail.cf.nopopauth  has been renamed    sendmail.cf

Well, that might turn it off <smile>... but the normal default behavior
is that if it's turned off THEN NO ONE CAN USE YOUR SMTP SERVER.

In other words POP before SMTP is not less permissive; the RaQ is secure
against relaying without it.  POP before SMTP is MORE permissive; it
lets people  use your email server as their own after they've proved
themselves by logging into your system for email.

It's bad that the error message the POP before SMTP package installs is
so specific, since it's used for a lot more errors than not logging in
for email, and it misleads you.  But we can live with that or make the
error message more generic ourselves.

> I should have NO problems.

Says who?

> Maybe, chooing RAQ is the cross I have to bear.

Don't know about you, but as I understand it God never gives us more
than we can bear.

Happy Easter.

(If you're Jewish, read the line directly above as "Happy Passover"; if
you're neither Jewish nor Christian, don't read it <smile>.)

Jeff
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