Re: [cobalt-users] O.T Sale of Business

[SteelHead <brk@xxxxxxxx>]

look at the bottom for my response.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Crull" <shawn@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] O.T Sale of Business


> Uh, Dan, I've been on the list for a couple weeks now, and the ONLY thing
> you've contributed is complaints about others not using the archives, or
> spamming. To me, and correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure I don't have to ask
> you to do that) what you are doing IS spam. The worst kind. It's kind of
> like a virus hoax that does more damage than the virus would have done,
> because everybody sent it to everybody in his or her address book
anyway...
>
> Posting an email to tell someone else that his or her email didn't need to
> be posted is a little hypocritical isn't it? Now, we all know about
> opinions, and I'm just stating mine, but I did search the archives for
you,
> and this opinion of mine seems to be shared by a few. I am a part of many
> mailing lists, and it seems like there is always somebody(or three) that
> seems to think it's their responsibility to point out the posts that don't
> need to be there, or people they think might be advertising. Nobody really
> appreciates it, and if it was something to worry about, lots of people
would
> comment. There comes a point when just simply their name on the list
> invalidates whatever they are posting. You've already accomplished that
for
> me, and I don't even bother to look at your posts. I'm sure that's not
what
> you intend, or want, but I know that a lot of people feel that way. I have
> found that people that Spam, or advertise their business, or ask stupid
> questions eventually stop spamming, realize that advertising in this
manner
> is ineffective, or get smarter about the questions they ask. Posting
> negative remarks about the other post invariably leads to more postings,
or
> just a complete ignoring of the person (you, in this case)
>
> I'm sure this will start something, but I felt It had to be said. And yes,
I
> am posting it to the list, but mainly as a check of myself, and my
standing
> on this issue.
>
> Shawn Crull
> shawn@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dan Kriwitsky
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:36 AM
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] O.T Sale of Business
>
> > we are Selling a Cobalt Raq Business based England
> > Contact Me of list If Interested.
> > Paul
>
>
> No thanks. I don't do business with spammers.
>

Dan,  there is a logic to the simple post that you object to.  I see that it
is not spam, but a person seeking a market for the company they have.
Unless I have missed my guess, one needs to be a member to post on this
list.  It is not hard to do, and it verifies that the pereson is somewhat
for real.  As a matter of fact, Paul *IS* a member of this list, and has
posted.
<<http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-developers/2001-March/009600.html>
>
<<http://www.mail-archive.com/cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg01517.htm
l>>

If I can venture a guess, Dan, you never saw his posts.  The questions were
lame, and he should have known the answers.  <<heheh>> If you argue at
everyone that asks a lame question, you build nothing but enemies.  Curtis
was kind and offered a oneline answer.   Kieth was great and offered a full
half hours worth of thought and typing.  Steve was awesome and politely
corrected a minor flaw in Kieth's response.  These guys show what this list
is for, to help someone having difficulties with a misbehaving Cobalt
device.  If I was unable to make a go of being an ISP because it was not a
simple matter, as a salesman likely told me it was, I would also want to
sell off the raq and be finished.  Hey, I belong to a list of Cobalt users,
perhaps one of them would like what I have.

Dan, he posted 3 lines.  It took you more time to yell at him than it did to
read the mail.

http://www.mail-archive.com/cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg17448.html  This
was spam for sure.
http://www.mail-archive.com/cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg17452.html  This
was the perfect response.

http://ftp.cobaltnet.com/lists/cobalt-users/msg07616.html  This borders on
being spam, there is nothing to do with the maintnance of a Cobalt, just
some dumb prices.  Hmm, wanna sell a Raq?

http://qube-users.qube.de/maillists/cobalt-users/2000-October/msg02476.html
This is a great response, nothing to critique here.

I guess the answers offered are a reflection of what kind of day it is and
what the subject.  Dan is helpful, he helped me tonight, but he seems to
have the manners of a Lion with a really bad toothache that keeps him from
eating or sleeping.

Give it a break please!

Bill