RE: [cobalt-users] Miva Commerce Raq

[Chad Wollerton <cwollerton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm a Miva user who respects the product, but is looking for something else.
Miva is natively slow, to my mind.  It's engine Miva Empressa is an
XML-based, non-compiled scripting language.  It's known to work much, much
better on Unix-Linux boxes than on NT boxes (for which it gets horrible,
horrible complaints), but I'm running only two Miva Merchant stores on a
RaQ2 and I dream about more speed.  It may be that I don't know enough to
get it going faster, but don't you want off-the-shelf products to work well
right out of the box?  I have seen some fast Miva sites.  They do exist, but
when they do, the reaction seems mostly to be surprise.

I think that additional licenses cost much less than the initial price.  My
memory (and that fails me all the time) was about $100 per license after the
initial $500 package purchase.  But is $600 high?  To some, yes.  To some,
no.  You can get a workable shop with products up in a day with Miva. 

Be forewarned that you may not like the templated look.  There are a lot of
add-ons available through third-party developers for designs and extra
fields.  Beyond a simple layout scheme, Miva costs extra.  My guess is that
most other products do, too.  And it's speed, speed that you'll want after
you've got the sight looking oh so good.  

Then there are these frequently corrupted databases.  Miva Merchant comes
with instructions to regularly pack and reindex its databases, but it seems
like once a week somebody appears on the user's list with a duplicate order
number.  When that happens, Miva goes nuts and your customers sometimes see
other people's orders, or even worse, other customer information.  

Anyhow, as I mentioned there's a Miva Merchant users list that you can
subscribe to at www.miva.com.  The base of users is expanding, which is good
news. The people on the list are often very helpful, but you can also learn
a lot just by monitoring it.

Chad Wollerton
Monticello Webmaster

P.S. I've heard good things about PHPShop, but I've also heard you have to
like to tinker to keep it going.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Arno Staal [mailto:divider@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:11 PM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Miva Commerce Raq


What operating system do you run Miva on?

We run multiple Miva stores on one single RaQ and we have NEVER fully used
the CPU. NOT even close. "the CPU has been lightly loaded"

Unportable? Compared to what? If there is one product easy to port it is
Miva. Did you read the manual? Did you take the time to realy take a look
into the code?

Slow? Offcourse it can allways go faster, we get compliments for websites
running fast on Miva. Did you partner a bad ISP, with a slow network?

Arno Staal
Divider.net E-business



----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederic Stos" <metalwolf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Miva Commerce Raq


> hi cb
>
> I definitively NOT recommend a MIVA to do anything....
> It's slow, unportable, and use 100% cpu during 5 minutes just for 1 user.
> (I have 2 sites right now with MIVA engine... and I am migrating to
> ANYTHING ELSE)
> There are many other solutions, much more flexible and that does not use
> your cpu time on that crazy way...
>
> Just an experience....
>
> Master Phil
>
> On 5 Jul 2001, at 14:58, Chris Bell wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendations as to where is a good place to
lease a
> > Miva Commerce Raq server from?
> >
> > Just looking around now, but it's hard to know what to expect. I'm
currently
> > leasing a Raq4i from 4webspace, and I've been very happy with them.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > cb
> >
> >
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