RE: [cobalt-users] Stop the BS!!

[Jay Kraft <jkraft@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I follow the list but do not contribute much. My humble opinion is that no
one died and made Dan or anyone else the moderator of this list. Frankly, I
think the list would be better without him because he causes more bad
feelings than any one else on the list.

I do talk to Cobalt support on a regular basis for issues that are behond
the knowledge of the list and they take a very dim view of the advice that
is generally found on the list. Most of the more complex issues can be
solved with one simple call to Cobalt support. I wrote Dan off-list to help
me resove a perl issue (thinking that he actually knew his stuff). After
many emails, I came to the conclusion that he didn't have a clue. One call
to Cobalt solved my problem.

I have disagreed with Dan on numerous occaisions as I think the list should
not only give basic newbie help but should also be a resource for software
and hardware that is available. Moreover, the list should be fun instead of
being like a nazi summer camp with Dan as Colonel Klink.

The long and short of it is that the list takes itself way too seriously
with these rules that Dan has determined are the way to run this list. I
been a certified SCO Unix guy since 1986. Some of the advice I read on this
list astounds me. Moreover, If we can't have some fun on this list without
Dan descending on the "offender" and half the list defending Dan and half
slamming him then I think Dan needs to move on. Maybe he should run a camp
for juvenile offenders but he is certainly not the owner, boss, maven, or
moderator of this list.

Now, I know some people think any attention, even negative attention, is a
good thing. Since Dan seems to relish in the criticism that he recieves, I
think the best thing to do is just ignore his posts and maybe he will go away.

(Just my humble opinion)!

Jay



At 12:14 PM 06/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> First and foremost a news-group is a tool that can be 
>> beneficial to both the newbe as well as the old hack, 
>
>>...which is why newbies are issued with a set of guidelines
>>when they first join the list.  Ignore the good advice contained 
>>in the meta-FAQ, you get shouted at by Dan.  It's very very 
>>simple.
>
>It is simple. But there has to be a certain level of tact and respect
>displayed by ALL the members as well. Dom, you for instance excel in
>tactfully educating and redirecting both newbies, and those of us that
>occasionally stray from the format. I think a search of the archives would
>find few, if any complaints mentioning your name. 
>Dan on the other hand has progressed from a very articulate and helpful list
>member to a very confrontational and aggressive member. I support Dan's
>efforts ( I have posted several times agreeing with him) to have folks
>educate themselves first and read the archives. However, his recent posts
>have been nothing but wasteful. Yes, I'd like to just delete these
>nasty-grams but, I need to keep up to speed on all the questions and
>answers, including Dan's.  I'm going to say it straight out though (pardon
>me Revd !) Dan, you've turned into a massive as*#ole. I don't know why
>you've become this bitter . I just hope you can make the effort to be the
>aide you once where (example: RE: [cobalt-users] NSLOOKUP Produces
>Non-Authoritative Answer to queries) or at least hold your tongue.
>
>
>~s~
>
>Disclaimer: All my own comments and no regrets. Asbestos suit has been
>donned.
>
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