Re: [cobalt-users] A Word About Cobaltracks.Com and Bandwidth Usage

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Unfortunately, I have found that this is an all too common problem in the
market place which is why I posted the message regarding bandwidth.  A lot
of newbies and people unfamiliar with the math just do not understand
exactly what a network needs to transfer what they advertise.  They simply
look at the price and buy word for word what the company states they
receive.  It is similar to that old saying regarding buying swampland in
Florida, except many of these people never realize they were taken by a
sales gimmick.

Typically, you find the lower the price the more often you will find a
problem.  Why, this is common sense.  People are in this business to make a
profit and there is not too much difference in BW costs from company to
company.  If the price is too low, chances are something, somewhere has been
sacrificed.  In the case of cobaltracks.com it is the damn slowest network
around.

Now, when you take a slow network and a slow server and then divide it among
100 to 200 websites this compounds the problem further.  Even if you have an
adequate connection to allow bandwidth equal to what your dedicated server
company states, you still must divide that bandwidth among every single
website on your server.

In the previous example, I estimated 489.6 kbps for transfer of 51 GB to the
server.  If you sell 20 GB per month to your web host customers for $9.95
you need a connection for just that customer which will support almost half
off that.  That is about 192 kbps for just that one customer!  That is hard
to do if you have 100 to 200+ sites on your server with a limited connection
of any kind.  However, figures such as those are popping up more and more on
the internet on networks that are slower and slower.  And unfortunately, the
web is a fools market filled with people believing they can get something
for nothing, and some never realizing what they actually received was
nothing!

Looking at hostpro's figures they more than account ample reserve in their
bandwidth.  A good dedicated server company should never base their figures
on maximum usage or greater than maximum usage but should instead reserve
bandwidth to always allow your server to perform at peak.  This is what
network management is all about!  It is not about cutting corners or over
using the network to make an extra dollar, either by the dedicated server
company or by the webhost company!

Currently, our network runs off the colos 1,000 mbps Epoch Backbone
connection.  They also have a redundant connection to an Epik backbone.  Our
arrangement allows us to increase our usage in 1 mbps increments which
allows us to increase bandwidth as we need to, to insure all customers have
max bandwidth available.  Anyway, we do not wish to sell our products on
this board as there are enough people doing that!

Thank you,

Michael T. Ross



----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Sagar <wsagar@xxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] A Word About Cobaltracks.Com and Bandwidth Usage


> >So lets see, three times the min bandwidth of 163.2 kbps is 489.6 kbps,
but
> >cobaltracks does not even provide the min bandwidth, so what are you
really
> >getting?  Sounds like another classic example of a webhost/dedicated
server
> >company sales gimmick where you get less than you expected.
>
> How many dedicated providers really do this? I'm with an affiliate of
> HostPro and I've seen many occasions where I was able to move data to and
> from the server with a T-1 connection from me to it at 1000kbps while a
> partner, located in another state was also accessing the system at the
same
> moment with very good connection speed..
>
> So, at least in this case, the figure given by HostPro (40g per month) is
a
> total figure allowed under the plan, not a bandwidth limited process.
>
> I looked at your site and your rates look attractive and I wish you luck
in
> your venture. I did, however, find it difficult to discern exactly what
> your backbone connection consists of? How many routes in and out do you
use?
>
> Wayne Sagar
>
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