RE: [cobalt-users] have fun

[flash22@xxxxxxx]

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Dan Kriwitsky wrote:

> Really? And you're doing what? Maybe you should go back in history a bit and
> read the posts that started this all.
> http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2001-March/038108.html and

In which you basiclly answered with 'Go RTFM' , you sullpied a link to the
entire apache web site (all 30 megs of docs) and the the enture cobaly
archives (all of them). Chances are if the poor fellow wanders around long
enough he will stumble into these regardless, so basiclly, you didn't help
him a bit -/

> http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2001-March/038115.html

And There are valid points there...
And i disagree that ErrorDocument handling has nothing to do with cobalt,
cobalt generated the default apache config on the raqs, and it's NOT the
same on allmachines, and it DOES interact with the virtual hosting logic
that in turn iinteracts with the GUI, i can think of several ways to
totally hose a RAQ adding Error Handlers in the wrong place, or in the
wrong way...Plus the Raq4 has a completly new method of handling
errordocuments

> It's amazing how many people appear to have only read my reply and not the
> original posts.
> (What's really kind of funny is that the person who flamed me, both on and

His name is Wayne :)

> off list, for my supposedly unhelpful reply wasn't even the person who
> posted the original question I replied to.)

The person you replied to probably got pissed off and left having gotten
nothing usefull from the list at all (It's his first post i think), never
to be seen again...

The rest of us have to read the resulting three day flame war that
results.

> > good-natured contributors to this community. Which eventually is going
> > to be just you and the people who signed up yesterday.
> 
> It really doesn't concern me what the ratio of men to women on this list is,
> and as for driving her away, I'm not quite sure what her concern was with
> the original thread that started this. But, she's a big girl and if she

The incessent flaming and 'GO RTFM' postings, it doubles the list traffic
and does nothing to help anyone, i know it's not just you , or even
mostly you, but you got to be the lightning rod this time...

And the ratio of clueless to existing users on this list will ALWAYS be
very high, that's the type of list it is, why would you subscribe to a
help list if you don't need any help? and regardless of the name, this is
really a help list ;)

> chose to jump in on a thread and then can't "take the heat" of replies, then
> she shouldn't post in the first place. If her concern was simply not wanting
> to read that thread, then kill files work great for that. Blaming me for
> running her off is a bit of a reach.

Maybe, because you do contribute usefull things from time to time, she
doesn't want to put you in a kill file ;) I hardly ever put people in
them, in fact , there's only one poster on this entire list in mine...


> > Maybe one of us *should* start another list, like the Qube-Users list
> > that Jeff hosts, and offer it for free to the people and Cobalt. Same as
> Yes, do that and then read what you wrote above that someone more sensitive
> than I may interpret as a thinly disguised threat of violence.
> Why you think Cobalt would want to send their customers to someone who
> competes with them for selling support to run a mailing list for them is
> quite beyond me.

I doubt Jeff would, he  has made valid points in the past as to
why it's not a good idea, and i agree with him, THIS list needs to become
usefull, and helpfull, going somewhere else and starting another list
isn't going to solve anything.

half a dozen people have left this list in the last month, doesn't that
tell you there is something about this list that is not
helpfull/productive/usefull ?

Two cents from the peanut gallery, feel free to flame if you must, but
remember, i've posted idiot questions to comp.answers , so if you want to
have an effect it had better be dammed good -/

gsh