RE: [cobalt-users] have fun

["Dan Kriwitsky" <webhosting@xxxxxxxxx>]

> > Really? And you're doing what? Maybe you should go back in
> history a bit and
> > read the posts that started this all.
> > http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2001-March/038108.html and
>
> In which you basiclly answered with 'Go RTFM' , you sullpied a link to the
> entire apache web site (all 30 megs of docs) and the the enture cobaly
> archives (all of them). Chances are if the poor fellow wanders around long
> enough he will stumble into these regardless, so basiclly, you didn't help
> him a bit -/

Chances are, since I provided the exact phrase "ErrorDocument" on which to
search, he would have no trouble searching either the list archives or the
Apache site. Searching the archive for that would quickly bring you to, (via
the first result), the thread
http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2000-August/017906.html which
should certainly answer the question by simply clicking "Next Message" a few
times.

>
> The person you replied to probably got pissed off and left having gotten
> nothing usefull from the list at all (It's his first post i think), never
> to be seen again...

GSH the Amazing Mind Reader (Coming to a theater near you.) ;-) Or, maybe he
went to the archives, entered ErrorDocument and found the answer, as I did.

>
> The rest of us have to read the resulting three day flame war that
> results.

No, you don't have to. Nor did it need to be extended by those who post
flames while at the same time saying flaming doesn't belong on the list.
Otherwise the entire thread would have simply ended rather quickly. It's
only the "Don't post flames, don't be a list cop" posts that really filled
up the inboxes. Or, I suppose I'm just supposed to ignore those posts and
not reply while the posters were apparently unable to ignore my posts and
refrain from replying to me? It's quite a double standard many seem to want.

>
> The incessent flaming and 'GO RTFM' postings, it doubles the list traffic
> and does nothing to help anyone, i know it's not just you , or even
> mostly you, but you got to be the lightning rod this time...

I have never posted GO RTFM. I have pointed people to the archives many
times, usually with either the exact phrase on which to search or even the
URL of a post or thread in the archive.

>
> And the ratio of clueless to existing users on this list will ALWAYS be
> very high, that's the type of list it is, why would you subscribe to a
> help list if you don't need any help? and regardless of the name, this is
> really a help list ;)

It's a help list for Cobalt servers, or as every email header says:
List-Id: Mailing list for users to share thoughts on Cobalt products.
<cobalt-users.list.cobalt.com>

>
> Maybe, because you do contribute usefull things from time to time, she
> doesn't want to put you in a kill file ;) I hardly ever put people in
> them, in fact , there's only one poster on this entire list in mine...

I have you beat. I have two.

>
>
> half a dozen people have left this list in the last month, doesn't that
> tell you there is something about this list that is not
> helpfull/productive/usefull ?

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but a large percentage of the posts are
asking questions about things that with minimum effort could be found either
in the archives or on Google, or were answered within the past month. Just
joining the list is not even a good excuse anymore as all new subscribers
get a copy of the META FAQ with clear information on where to search.

>
> Two cents from the peanut gallery, feel free to flame if you must, but
> remember, i've posted idiot questions to comp.answers , so if you want to
> have an effect it had better be dammed good -/
>

I don't feel I've flamed anyone who hasn't stooped to personal attacks. In
fact, some of the most vitriolic flames have come from those that routinely
use personal insults in reply to posters on this list. Something I reserve
for spammes.
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Dan Kriwitsky