[cobalt-users] Re: cobalt-users digest, Vol 1 #1446 - 16 msgs

["Frank Volpe" <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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>    1. RE: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] FREE Web mail WHERE? (Dan Kriwitsky)
>    2. Re: [Qube2] More newbie Q's... (Dom Latter)
>    3. Re: Re: How to turn off Finger and Who Services on Qube2 (Graeme
Fowler)
>    4. Re: Sun Solaris???  Bad Business Decision (Dom Latter)
>    5. PHP4 installed - need to integrate into Postgres (James)
>    6. ImageMagic for PHP4 (James)
>    7. Re: Re: How to turn off Finger and Who Services on Qube2 (Fabrice
Prémel)
>    8. Re: No Solaris Petition (Dom Latter)
>    9. How to check your Password File for shadowing (Franklin S. Werren)
>   10. Cannot verify (existence of server) (Lorraine Egsit)
>   11. Re: PHP4 installed - need to integrate into Postgres (Jonathan
Rosenberg)
>   12. Re: How to check your Password File for shadowing (Fabrice Prémel)
>   13. Re: Sun Solaris???  Bad Business Decision (Arsalan Mahmud)
>   14. Majordomo Digest setup (Alexander)
>   15. Can I avoid installing OS3 again ? (Benoit Sarton)
>   16. Reply to in Form mail (James Riordon)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Dan Kriwitsky" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] FREE Web mail WHERE?
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:09:47 -0400
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > just installed the 2.0.1 version and apart from an error message :
> >
> > Can't locate NDBM_File.pm in @INC .....
> >
> > it is working fine as a viewer of mail from a remote mailbox.
> > Haven't tried
> > other options yet.
> >
> > Anyone know what the error essage means ? - I assume it is concerned
with
> > dbm files where atdot stores its messages ?
> >
>
> Actually, it looks like it can't find a Perl module the script is calling
> for. Look at the script for something like reqire near the top that's
> calling that module.
>
> http://search.cpan.org/search?module=NDBM_File
> --
> Dan Kriwitsky
> 
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:35:22 +0100
> From: Dom Latter <d.latter@xxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] [Qube2] More newbie Q's...
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Scott Steyns wrote:
> >
> > I have installed our Qube at work and I am having problems with email. I
> > cannot get the mail working at all, internal or external. Every time I
> > configure the clients they say they cannot connect. (Have tried all
> > variations of IP's and names).
>
> This is a bit vague Scott.  What are the IPs and netmasks that
> you are using?  Can the client machines ping the Qube or not?
>
> --
> Dom.
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> From: "Graeme Fowler" <graeme.f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Re: How to turn off Finger and Who Services on
Qube2
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:35:30 +0100
> Organization: WebFusion Internet Solutions
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Mitch wrote:
> > These are already commented out, but when we do:
> > [mitch@www mitch]$ finger
> > We receive:
> > Login     Name      Tty  Idle  Login Time   Office
>
> <blah>
>
> Aha! You be talking about the finger *command* and not the finger
> *service*.
>
> Try this:
>
> chmod 0700 /usr/bin/finger
>
> That will only allow root to use it.
> Be prepared that it might break any scripts/bits of the admin panel
> which might just use it...
>
> Graeme
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:45:03 +0100
> From: Dom Latter <d.latter@xxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Sun Solaris???  Bad Business Decision
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Graeme Fowler wrote:
> >
> > Shall we wait until a real announcement before getting hot under the
> > collar? I know I will.
>
> Enough of that reasoned discussion, let's get back to the kneejerk
> "Linus is God" stuff, eh?
>
> --
> Dom.
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:43:07 +0200
> From: James <jgodwin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] PHP4 installed - need to integrate into Postgres
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi
>
> I have installed PHP4 on our RaQ3i and everything seems to be OK.
>
> The only problem is that I don't have any access to Postgres SQL.
>
> Is there something I need to configure on the RaQ3i to integrate PHP4
> and Postgres?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> James
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:46:49 +0200
> From: James <jgodwin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] ImageMagic for PHP4
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi
>
> I had a request from a client who has a site hosted on one of our
> RaQ's. He is utilizing PHP and asked if I had ImageMagic installed.
>
> Is this installed when PHP is installed or is this a separate program?
>
> If not installed does anyone have a URL to point me to?
>
> Thanks
>
> James
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Fabrice Prémel <fabrice@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:58:08 GMT
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Re: How to turn off Finger and Who Services on
Qube2
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >fgrep finger /etc/services
> >
> >
> >we received this:
> >
> >finger          79/tcp
> >cfinger         2003/tcp                        # GNU
> >finger
> >
>
> This is it.
>
> You need to comment this out to turn off finger.
>
> Write a '#' before them :
>
> #finger          79/tcp
> #cfinger         2003/tcp                        # GNU
>
> then restart inetd :
>
> kill -SIGHUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Fabrice Prémel.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:22:57 +0100
> From: Dom Latter <d.latter@xxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] No Solaris Petition
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> "Vachon, Scott" wrote:
> >
> > >So essentially, besides market share, the Linux
> > >community gains very little from Cobalt, while Cobalt gains a lot.
> >
> > That's the "American way." Free enterprise, isn't it great ?!
>
> Are the Cobalt add-ons not infected by the GPL anyway?
>
> In any case I think that Cobalt has certainly done it's bit in moving
> the image of Linux away from the "geek's toy".  It's not long ago that
> a common theme on this list was "whatever you do, don't tell management
> it runs Linux - tell them that it's an appliance".
>
> > I don't have a problem with Solaris or Sun but, I like the Cobalt
product
> > and the fact that it runs a Linux flavor.
>
> For me, it was that it was a pre-installed pre-configured Linux.
> As long as I stick to doing stuff where I know what I'm doing,
> I'm confident that it will carry on.  Low cost of ownership was
> the key.
>
> --
> Dom.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Franklin S. Werren" <fswerren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:13:56 -0400
> Subject: [cobalt-users] How to check your Password File for shadowing
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi All
>
> there are 2 ways to look at this file
> The easy way is ftp in as admin
> go to /etc directory
> find the "passwd" file
> look at it, I use the view command in ws-ftp
> or d/l it and use notepad
> look at the second field from the left
> root:*:0:0 ect.... for shadowed password file
> root:efifgdsi6rgt:0:0 ... ect for un-shadow password
>
> If a cracker get ahold of a un-shadowed password file
> there is a good chance that a command line program
> called John The Ripper can un-encript the encripted
> password file.
>
> Also see if you can ftp in as a user and see if you can get into the /etc
> directory
>
> How to in Telnet
> log in as admin
> cd /etc
> pico passwd
> The rest is the same as ftp
> also try to telnet in as a user and see if you can see the file.
>
> I found that a RAQ3 is shadowed but a RAQ 1 is not,
> just like my Qube 2
> Because I am using a router, Linksys DSL Cable router
> I did not open the telnet and ftp ports to the net..
> I do not need those ports open, I admin it from the lan not from the net.
>
>
> Franklin S. Werren, webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx   www.bagpipes.net
> Modem Madness Ringmaster at www.madbbs.com/webring/
> ICQ 8556386 or fswerren46 on AOL's IM or fswerren46 for MSN Messenger
>
> Frank's Radio, P.O. Box 990, Sherman NY 14781-0990
> www.franksradio.net
> For the best ISP in Chautauqua County NY and North West Pa
> go to www.madbbs.com    They treat you right.
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Lorraine Egsit" <legsit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:36:41 GMT
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Cannot verify (existence of server)
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Having trawled the archives (unsuccesfully) I am driven to posting this
> dilemma:
>
> When changing the primary dns of a customer's domain to point to one of
our
> raq 3s I get this error from the registration authority:
>
> "Unable to update nameservers: Command failed: unable to verify existence
of
> nameserver (name of our raq). Error# 480"
>
> The raq is hosting the site using a shared IP with about 10 sites all
> working ok.
> Another 30 sites are being hosted on the raq with individual IP's all of
> which also use the raq for primary dns and are working fine.
>
> The secondary dns points to a different machine and also works just fine.
>
> It's not the end of the world because if I change the primary dns to a
> different box; either another raq or another server (funnily enough
running
> Solaris!!!) it verifies and works fine.
>
> Having said that, it would be good to know what's going on.
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Lorraine
> www.wssite.ws
>
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> Message: 11
> From: "Jonathan Rosenberg" <jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] PHP4 installed - need to integrate into
Postgres
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:42:39 -0400
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I know for configuring it to use MySQL, it is a compile-time option,
> something like
>
> ./configure --with-mysql.
>
> I believe it is the same way for integrating PostgreSQL with with it.  I
do
> not believe you can add additional DB support without recompiling, but I
may
> be wrong.
>
> check the install guide on php.net, it says specifically either there or
in
> the install readme including in the source.
>
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James" <jgodwin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:43 PM
> Subject: [cobalt-users] PHP4 installed - need to integrate into Postgres
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have installed PHP4 on our RaQ3i and everything seems to be OK.
> >
> > The only problem is that I don't have any access to Postgres SQL.
> >
> > Is there something I need to configure on the RaQ3i to integrate PHP4
> > and Postgres?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Jame
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: Fabrice Prémel <fabrice@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:47:28 GMT
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] How to check your Password File for shadowing
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> >If a cracker get ahold of a un-shadowed password file
> >there is a good chance that a command line program
> >called John The Ripper can un-encript the encripted
> >password file.
>
> Encrypted passwords can not be decrypted. Programs that pretend to
> crack a password file just do brute-force on it : they have a
> dictionnary, they encrypt every word in it (plus some common
> spellings, such a 0 at the end of word), and they compare these
> results with what's in password file. Which means that if all
> passwords are well chosen, they should not be able to get one.
>
> But do not rely on this. Shadow passwords are good, for they do not
> cost much, and they are a great security improvement.
>
> Just a little precision,
>
> Fabrice Prémel.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: "Arsalan Mahmud" <arsalan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Sun Solaris???  Bad Business Decision
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:13:08 +0500
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I just have one question and it isn't hard at all :)
>
> If we didn't get raq's mainly because we won't have to waste time
> configuring the dame thing why did we get them ? Was it for their fancy
> casing ? or just to look good in a dark room ? we could have gotten the
gui
> which other developers offer customized in a prices less then "one" raq!
>
>
> Arsalan Mahmud
> Nexus Technologies
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graeme Fowler" <graeme.f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Sun Solaris??? Bad Business Decision
>
>
> > Bill Micke wrote:
> >
> > > If Sun puts Solaris on the RaQs, they can kiss my... er,  I mean, I
> > will
> > > not purchase any more RaQs.
> >
> > <snip massively top-posted message which wasn't even relevant>
> >
> > I've been following this thread [1] since the start. I have to ask a
> > question:
> >
> > Apart from the one or two people who have already expressed this, just
> > how many people on this list have actually *used* Solaris? [Rhetorical
> > question so don't go replying to it].
> >
> > I have used Solaris on both Sun and Intel hardware. Apart from the usual
> > gripes I have with any operating system (hidden gotchas in things like
> > open file limits, process limits and the like - which we don't often see
> > mentioned on this list) I couldn't really complain. In fact under
> > certain conditions I prefer Solaris on SPARC, but I'll keep quiet about
> > that :)
> >
> > The syntax for the shell is different, sure, but then it's a pure System
> > V based Unix rather than a hodge-podge of BSD/SysV semantics [2].
> >
> > Those of us on the list who are capable of doing 'behind-the-scenes'
> > stuff with the CobaltOS CLI will notice some differences, but the
> > arguments about software availability become null and void when you
> > realise that just about all GNU software and other open-source scheme
> > software will compile under Solaris. I have personally setup Apache,
> > MySQL, PHP, replacements for Sendmail (Exim & Qmail), webmail packages,
> > Apache modules (mod_ssl, mod_perl and the like) under both Intel and
> > SPARC Solaris without any problems at all. Well, I did have to compile
> > them ;-) and there's the big difference - there is simply not the
> > precompiled package base for Solaris.
> > (Maybe if Sun used its' marketing weight a little there would be, but I
> > doubt it.)
> >
> > Sun would be stoopid if it decided to cease supporting the entire
> > current Cobalt product line *unless* it dropped things sequentially. Who
> > expects to get full support for (say) a RaQ2 in five years time? That's
> > where lists like this come in useful - we will continue to help out and
> > support hardware and software which is long-since obsolete since we have
> > a vested interest in doing so. We after all own and use some of it.
> >
> > IMHO those with no experience of Solaris should maybe go try it out
> > before slagging it off. You would after all not call a similar car to
> > the one you own bad just because you haven't driven it...
> >
> > If Cobalt/Sun decide to make the RaQ5 run Solaris, I doubt it will
> > affect many of us very much with the exception of 'add-on' software
> > packages. Some of the packages will probably get generated by members of
> > this list - which might mean they get tested better in the first place,
> > and wouldn't be a bonus!
> >
> > And bear in mind that in order to convert the entire product line to
> > Solaris, Sun would have to make Cobalt's entire development and support
> > team redundant; or at the very least send them on Solaris retraining
> > courses. I wouldn't think that's financially (or politically!)
> > acceptable, not even for a company as large as Sun.
> >
> > [1] OK, the original thread mutated into this one
> > [2] If you don't know what this means, look up the history of Unix on
> > the web. It all came out of competition, unsurprisingly.
> >
> > Shall we wait until a real announcement before getting hot under the
> > collar? I know I will.
> >
> > Graeme
> >
> > --
> > Graeme Fowler
> > System Administrator
> > WebFusion Internet Solutions
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 21:21:33 +0300
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: Alexander <mediadyne@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Majordomo Digest setup
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I have a Raq3 and it has majordomo built in. However, as many of you
> probably know, through the interface only email mode lists can be created,
> not digests or archiving.
> I have tried with a list member to work it out, but I think he might be
out
> of town for a while.
> What is the easiest way to create a digest version with archives on the
Raq?
> Has anyone done it?
> Can it be made to work with the existing majordomo setup, or would I need
> to re install majordomo from the beginning?
>
> Finally, any links that might help that deal with this issue on a Raq will
> be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> P.S. Could someone advice me on which book to get as a beginner in the Raq
> in general??
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "Benoit Sarton" <bs@xxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:44:21 +0200
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Can I avoid installing OS3 again ?
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sorry to come with OS-3 update problems again
>
> I installed the os3 upgrade with the command line ( the method that was
> recommanded if you have 'many frontpage sites').
> The process seemed to terminate correctly, although I encountered the
> problems that have been described in this list : reset of the majordomo
> config files, and pop services failure.
> However, at the end, it did NOT register the OS3 package in the 'software
on
> the cobalt server page', which now looks like this :
>
> Cobalt OS Release 4.0
> RaQ2-All-Security Release 3.0.1-6682
> RaQ2-Update-OS Release 2.0
>
> Now, i need to install   RaQ2-All-System-3.0.1-7362.pkg , but it says that
i
> need to install the OS3 upgrade first !
>
> I'd rather not install it again, if I could avoid it.
> so my question is : what would you do ?
>
> 1. Try to install the whole Update OS 3.0 again, over the first one ?
> 2.Try to check if it is has been fully installed already, and let it know
to
> the package manager, so it will let me install the next updates ? How can
I
> do so ?
> 3. Try to check which part of the update process is missing, and try to
> restart it from that point ? Is that possible ?
>
> Thanks for any good advice.
>
> Ben.
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:50:12 -0400
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: James Riordon <James@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [cobalt-users] Reply to in Form mail
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I have looked through the archives but could not locate what I am looking
for.
>
> I am using BigNoseBird CGI Form script to handle forms for my site.
> here is what I receive from a form submission:
>
> Return-Path: <salesinfo>
> Received: (from salesinfo@localhost)
> by www.amigo-3.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12368;
> Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:46:13 -0400
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:46:13 -0400
> From: Sales Salesinfo Info <salesinfo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-Id: <200010041846.OAA12368@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: sales@xxxxxxxxxx
> X-Mailer: Perl Powered Socket Mailer
> Subject: RDI contact by form
> X-UIDL: 5L1"!JZR!!pD"!!IN'"!
>
> My website is riordon.ca and the main site on the server is
> amigo-3.com. How can I change the 'From' and 'Received' fields to
> reflect that the form is coming from riordon.ca and not show
> amigo-3.com.
>
> Any suggestions, or perhaps a better script if any one knows of one,
> will be appreciated.
>
> James
>
>
>
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