Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition

[Frank Johnson <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The reason Solaris is not on any of our raq2s now is because of the mips
processor. I am not aware of a Solaris distribution for the mips
processor.  However, I will check again right now.  We are currently
running Solaris on our sparc servers and a couple of laptops today.

FJ

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Arsalan Mahmud wrote:

> Hey... Why don't you just install Solaris on your raq right now ?
> 
>  Do you honestly think that the ppl at Sun will post an upgrade of over 500
> meg for you to upgrade (down grade actually) to Solaris ?
> 
>  Even if they do, do you seriously think they will for free ?
> 
> 
> Arsalan Mahmud
> Nexus Technologies
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Johnson" <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition
> 
> 
> > I would hope that they would make solaris available on all platforms.  If
> > they just abandoned the existing customer base it would be a very bad move
> > and my position on the solaris-linux debate would change.
> >
> > For those who don't know: I am pro solaris on the cobalt assuming that it
> > will include Raq2 machines.
> >
> > FJ
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Arsalan Mahmud wrote:
> >
> > > I just have a simple questions which I am sure you would be able to
> > > answer...
> > >
> > > Lets say cobalt shifts to Solaris and uses it on the raq 5 series.. Lets
> say
> > > consumers like it allot hell they sell a zillion boxes.. Just tell me
> this..
> > > since Sun doesn't have the "energy" to further develop Linux where will
> we
> > > be left with our raq 3i's and 4 r's not to mention the 2's and 1's and
> the
> > > qubes and cache raq's and all the other products they already have ?
> > >
> > > Lets say their is a new exploit out for the apache http server that we
> run
> > > right now on all of our raq's. Sun isn't interested in Linux any more so
> you
> > > would rater have all of your servers compromised right ?
> > >
> > > As pointed out that not allot of users actually use the command line
> so..
> > > how will they fix problems when the platform is no longer supported by
> the
> > > parent company ?
> > >
> > > Who will be making the patches and stuff... even now their patches
> aren't
> > > fully tested (it seems) will you be making them for us ? will you
> dedicate a
> > > whole department for the few THOUSAND raq's out there ?
> > >
> > > Should we consider our 50+ raq's as a bad investment ?
> > >
> > > Let me know your thoughts !!
> > >
> > > Arsalan Mahmud
> > > Nexus Technologies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kris Dahl" <krislists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition
> > >
> > >
> > > > Honestly I am not hearing a lot of arguments as to why NOT Solaris.  I
> > > have
> > > > always been very impressed by the performance of Solaris.
> > > >
> > > > I am a OpenSource software fan, but honestly Cobalt is has done very
> > > little
> > > > to kick back to the OS community.  ChiliSoft ASP is still closed
> source,
> > > as
> > > > is the special suace, etc.  So essentially, besides market share, the
> > > Linux
> > > > community gains very little from Cobalt, while Cobalt gains a lot.
> Now
> > > that
> > > > Cobalt is essentially Sun, I have a hard time believing that it is not
> in
> > > > their advantage to use Solaris.  Additionally the Cobalt profit margin
> is
> > > > high enough to easily cover perhaps a 'special' Solaris license.  Sun
> may
> > > > even make a Cobalt Solaris distro for use on these things that will be
> > > much
> > > > less expensive than a normal Solaris license.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, I wouldn't actually mind that much running Solaris on
> a
> > > > machine.  It is not really all that different than Linux--especially
> on a
> > > > server vs. a workstation--a skilled administrator shouldn't have too
> many
> > > > issues with the learning curve.  Advantages (playing the Devils
> advocate
> > > > here a bit) is you can go to Sun for support, 'improved' security,
> > > > accountability, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Disadvantages include
> > > > * Closed Source
> > > > * License Cost -- which would be included in the cost of the machine
> so
> > > they
> > > > would probably not increase in price
> > > > * Slow to respond to security -- again, a net effect of zero
> > > > * More Stable
> > > >
> > > > Most of the worlds 100 largest/highest traffic web sites use Solaris
> as
> > > > their OS.  A few use BSD, NT and Linux.  But Solaris has more than all
> > > > others added together.
> > > >
> > > > So.  I guess I am saying that I don't have a problem with Solaris.  It
> is
> > > a
> > > > quality product.  I would have a problem, perhaps, if it became much
> more
> > > > expensive, or if they limited functionality.  But a straight across
> swap I
> > > > would not have a whole lot of problems with.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > -k
> > > >
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