Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition

["Arsalan Mahmud" <arsalan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey... Why don't you just install Solaris on your raq right now ?

 Do you honestly think that the ppl at Sun will post an upgrade of over 500
meg for you to upgrade (down grade actually) to Solaris ?

 Even if they do, do you seriously think they will for free ?


Arsalan Mahmud
Nexus Technologies




----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Johnson" <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition


> I would hope that they would make solaris available on all platforms.  If
> they just abandoned the existing customer base it would be a very bad move
> and my position on the solaris-linux debate would change.
>
> For those who don't know: I am pro solaris on the cobalt assuming that it
> will include Raq2 machines.
>
> FJ
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Arsalan Mahmud wrote:
>
> > I just have a simple questions which I am sure you would be able to
> > answer...
> >
> > Lets say cobalt shifts to Solaris and uses it on the raq 5 series.. Lets
say
> > consumers like it allot hell they sell a zillion boxes.. Just tell me
this..
> > since Sun doesn't have the "energy" to further develop Linux where will
we
> > be left with our raq 3i's and 4 r's not to mention the 2's and 1's and
the
> > qubes and cache raq's and all the other products they already have ?
> >
> > Lets say their is a new exploit out for the apache http server that we
run
> > right now on all of our raq's. Sun isn't interested in Linux any more so
you
> > would rater have all of your servers compromised right ?
> >
> > As pointed out that not allot of users actually use the command line
so..
> > how will they fix problems when the platform is no longer supported by
the
> > parent company ?
> >
> > Who will be making the patches and stuff... even now their patches
aren't
> > fully tested (it seems) will you be making them for us ? will you
dedicate a
> > whole department for the few THOUSAND raq's out there ?
> >
> > Should we consider our 50+ raq's as a bad investment ?
> >
> > Let me know your thoughts !!
> >
> > Arsalan Mahmud
> > Nexus Technologies
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kris Dahl" <krislists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition
> >
> >
> > > Honestly I am not hearing a lot of arguments as to why NOT Solaris.  I
> > have
> > > always been very impressed by the performance of Solaris.
> > >
> > > I am a OpenSource software fan, but honestly Cobalt is has done very
> > little
> > > to kick back to the OS community.  ChiliSoft ASP is still closed
source,
> > as
> > > is the special suace, etc.  So essentially, besides market share, the
> > Linux
> > > community gains very little from Cobalt, while Cobalt gains a lot.
Now
> > that
> > > Cobalt is essentially Sun, I have a hard time believing that it is not
in
> > > their advantage to use Solaris.  Additionally the Cobalt profit margin
is
> > > high enough to easily cover perhaps a 'special' Solaris license.  Sun
may
> > > even make a Cobalt Solaris distro for use on these things that will be
> > much
> > > less expensive than a normal Solaris license.
> > >
> > > That being said, I wouldn't actually mind that much running Solaris on
a
> > > machine.  It is not really all that different than Linux--especially
on a
> > > server vs. a workstation--a skilled administrator shouldn't have too
many
> > > issues with the learning curve.  Advantages (playing the Devils
advocate
> > > here a bit) is you can go to Sun for support, 'improved' security,
> > > accountability, etc.
> > >
> > > Disadvantages include
> > > * Closed Source
> > > * License Cost -- which would be included in the cost of the machine
so
> > they
> > > would probably not increase in price
> > > * Slow to respond to security -- again, a net effect of zero
> > > * More Stable
> > >
> > > Most of the worlds 100 largest/highest traffic web sites use Solaris
as
> > > their OS.  A few use BSD, NT and Linux.  But Solaris has more than all
> > > others added together.
> > >
> > > So.  I guess I am saying that I don't have a problem with Solaris.  It
is
> > a
> > > quality product.  I would have a problem, perhaps, if it became much
more
> > > expensive, or if they limited functionality.  But a straight across
swap I
> > > would not have a whole lot of problems with.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > -k
> > >
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