Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition

[Frank Johnson <frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would hope that they would make solaris available on all platforms.  If
they just abandoned the existing customer base it would be a very bad move
and my position on the solaris-linux debate would change.

For those who don't know: I am pro solaris on the cobalt assuming that it
will include Raq2 machines.

FJ

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Arsalan Mahmud wrote:

> I just have a simple questions which I am sure you would be able to
> answer...
> 
> Lets say cobalt shifts to Solaris and uses it on the raq 5 series.. Lets say
> consumers like it allot hell they sell a zillion boxes.. Just tell me this..
> since Sun doesn't have the "energy" to further develop Linux where will we
> be left with our raq 3i's and 4 r's not to mention the 2's and 1's and the
> qubes and cache raq's and all the other products they already have ?
> 
> Lets say their is a new exploit out for the apache http server that we run
> right now on all of our raq's. Sun isn't interested in Linux any more so you
> would rater have all of your servers compromised right ?
> 
> As pointed out that not allot of users actually use the command line so..
> how will they fix problems when the platform is no longer supported by the
> parent company ?
> 
> Who will be making the patches and stuff... even now their patches aren't
> fully tested (it seems) will you be making them for us ? will you dedicate a
> whole department for the few THOUSAND raq's out there ?
> 
> Should we consider our 50+ raq's as a bad investment ?
> 
> Let me know your thoughts !!
> 
> Arsalan Mahmud
> Nexus Technologies
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kris Dahl" <krislists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] RE: No Solaris Petition
> 
> 
> > Honestly I am not hearing a lot of arguments as to why NOT Solaris.  I
> have
> > always been very impressed by the performance of Solaris.
> >
> > I am a OpenSource software fan, but honestly Cobalt is has done very
> little
> > to kick back to the OS community.  ChiliSoft ASP is still closed source,
> as
> > is the special suace, etc.  So essentially, besides market share, the
> Linux
> > community gains very little from Cobalt, while Cobalt gains a lot.  Now
> that
> > Cobalt is essentially Sun, I have a hard time believing that it is not in
> > their advantage to use Solaris.  Additionally the Cobalt profit margin is
> > high enough to easily cover perhaps a 'special' Solaris license.  Sun may
> > even make a Cobalt Solaris distro for use on these things that will be
> much
> > less expensive than a normal Solaris license.
> >
> > That being said, I wouldn't actually mind that much running Solaris on a
> > machine.  It is not really all that different than Linux--especially on a
> > server vs. a workstation--a skilled administrator shouldn't have too many
> > issues with the learning curve.  Advantages (playing the Devils advocate
> > here a bit) is you can go to Sun for support, 'improved' security,
> > accountability, etc.
> >
> > Disadvantages include
> > * Closed Source
> > * License Cost -- which would be included in the cost of the machine so
> they
> > would probably not increase in price
> > * Slow to respond to security -- again, a net effect of zero
> > * More Stable
> >
> > Most of the worlds 100 largest/highest traffic web sites use Solaris as
> > their OS.  A few use BSD, NT and Linux.  But Solaris has more than all
> > others added together.
> >
> > So.  I guess I am saying that I don't have a problem with Solaris.  It is
> a
> > quality product.  I would have a problem, perhaps, if it became much more
> > expensive, or if they limited functionality.  But a straight across swap I
> > would not have a whole lot of problems with.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -k
> >
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