Re: [cobalt-users] Chilisoft ASP

[Will DeHaan <will@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Kris,

I do agree with you that open source solutions like PHP should be better
supported.  You should expect that.  

I'm surprised at your negative reaction to any ASP bundling though.  How
is ASP different from FrontPage extensions when running on Linux?  How
many ISPs could use linux at all for their web hosting without FPX?  Of
course there are better solutions that are open sourced and/or free for
both applications but Cobalt should be enabling as many customers as
possible.  Doesn't adding ASP support onto a Linux box encourage an NT
shop to ditch NT server and simply migrate web sites?  Once migrated to
an OSS based platform those customers could wise up to other options
that may be better suited to their needs?  

One of my goals is to evolve Cobalt Linux servers into a very painless
drop-in replacement for NT boxen.  ASP support is a good way of getting
there.  Now if only I could convolute bind enough to work with MS's
interpretation of DNS... ;-)

We're not back stabbing anybody, watch for support of more tools, OSS
and otherwise.

One technical correction regarding your email...  ASP is not in direct
conflict with PHP, they can co-exist on the same server.


	-- Will


PC disclaimer:
The statements above are not forward looking statements by Cobalt
Networks but are my opinions.  Linux is a registered trademark of Linus
Torvalds.  MS, FPX, Frontpage and all that are trademarks of Microsoft

Kris Dahl wrote:
> 
> I just heard that Cobalt is supporting ChiliSoft ASP.
> 
> I am actually pretty furious about this.  Here we are, trying to support the
> open source community, building better applications and they go out and
> partner with a Closed-Source technology that is based upon a technology that
> is from Microsoft, and designed for Microsoft.  It'd be one thing if there
> was a technology out there that is as good or better than ASP.  But there
> is--PHP.
> 
> I am appalled that Cobalt is going to undermine the same people that have
> been supporting them (such as myself).  I think Cobalt has done some great
> work.  I support them, and use their products.  The PHP development group
> has been outstanding and I support them and use their products.  I act as a
> evangelist for both.
> 
> They would be better served staying true to their model.  How about putting
> the same energy into supporting PHP on Cobalt's servers, instead of it being
> 'experimental' and typically outdated?  Evangalize the superior technology
> and when someone asks if you can build ASPs on a Raq ask them "Why, when you
> can use PHP?".
> 
> Just seems like back-stabbing to me.
> 
> If Cobalt makes any more commitments to closed-source projects that are in
> direct conflict with superior open-source ones I am no longer going to be
> supporting and advocating them.  If Cobalt doesn't step up to the plate and
> start supporting PHP a little more, I am going to bail as well.  Which is
> unfortunate because I've been advocating Cobalt products for about a year
> now.
> 
> Does anyone agree with me on this one?
> 
> -k
> 
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