Re: [cobalt-users] RAQ4i : webserver down

["Zeffie" <cobaltlist@xxxxxxxx>]

> They have a poor partition schema (as you call it) for anyone who hosts

Gerald called it a "poor hard drive partition schema" I didn't.

> a few thousand email addresses that get a lot of spam, for anyone who
> has a high turnover in email addresses (for example, an ISP), etc.,
> because the logs fill up /var quite quickly.

"a few thousand email addresses that get a lot of spam" ???  3000 thousand
users?  Are you kidding...  That sounds like a really cheap thing to try and
do...  They need a fast mail server not an old slow server and I bet the
logs fill up!  get a real server... and hey jeff...  my car didn't qualify
for the indy 500 again this year... something about it not being a race
car???? :)

> In fact they have a poor partition schema for anyone who uses email at
> all; that's why they (early in the game) realized they needed to
> symlink /var/spool/mail to /home/spool/mail.

Actually if you look at the old old systems you will find they work on some
very old customs before anybody knew what spam was...  it was all old
style...  not the "customer support" version used today where isp's make 1
big partition... :)


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> > btw... I have moved the entire /usr to /home and it boots,  but I
> > didn't test it much since it was a devel drive about to be
> > restored...  maybe on the next re-build
>
> The question would be "does it mount early enough so everything that
> needs to get started at boot time that's in /usr get's started.  I've
> never checked to see if there's anything in /usr that even gets started
> by startup scripts, so I'm not sure.  That would be what to look for.

well guess what ... that damm lcd! :)
so I was about to build another test box for some packages I'm making and I
decided to give this another try and actually look around and test a
little...  and I ended up reviewing all the boot related files...  These are
the results....

Yes it boots just fine and all is well...

What dosent' work...
durring the boot process we don't get messages from gettext displayed on the
lcd until the disk is mounted... No biggie...  I like a term when I boot
anyway...
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> The other problem with symbolic links occurs when you use tar to backup
> whole directory trees or whole partitions.

yep.. I just grab the stuff I want...

> And putting mail and /var/logs into /home (for example) is NOT a good
> idea; it can (and does on older RaQs) often result in /home being
> filled

well it's just /var data anyway and has no bussiness there..  but we don't
aren't suppose to have that much anyway... :)

> Also, the lack of a /tmp partition is the specific reason why your
> clients with 20 meg mailboxes (for example) filled above 10 meg call
> you when they can't download their email.
> Jeff

? I haven't had any problems like this and I just tested it on a RaQ4.  I
had a user with a 20 meg quota that I cat'ed the cobaltlist mail file into
(13 meg) and then set it up in my mail and "pop" ... 3500 messages later i'm
done?  Can you tell me a way to re-produce this?

oh and you can have a /tmp if you want one...  :)  how big?

Zeffie
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