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RE: [cobalt-users] RE: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Samuel Mauntz)

Samuel,

Thanks and apologies for this because I KNOW I've seen it/found it before,
but where is the user's mbox file stored?

Thanks !

Chuck


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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cobalt-users] RE: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Samuel Mauntz)

Check the 

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Check the user's mbox file for any corruption...expecially in the first
couple lines.  Sometimes mbox corruption can cause certain pop clients to
display the symptoms you were describing.


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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Chuck Lewis)
   2. RE: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Gerald Waugh)
   3. Re: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Dave - Technical Support)
   4. RE: Weird E-Mail Locking Issue (Chuck Lewis)
   5. OT: NFS/SMB through a Firewall - Security Recommendations (Ligard,
Vidar)
   6. RE: Raq 3i with big drives {Scanned} (H.P. Noordam)
   7. Re: OT: NFS/SMB through a Firewall - Security
       Recommendations (Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SBN+A==?=lsted)

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Message: 1
From: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:23:33 -0500
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I did that for our problem and the user is STILL getting that error. And the
file is recreated.

Any other ideas what could be causing this ?

Thanks !

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryan Howe
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:10 AM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue

We have found that this happens when the user interrupts the mail download.
I just delete the .user.pop file in /var/spool/mail/ but beware that you
will often get a corrupted mail drop doing this and then the user looses all
the mail they haven't yet downloaded.

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chuck Lewis
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:52 AM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue


Dave,

I am having the SAME problem with a user and I went so far as to delete the
account in Microsoft Outlook (because that is of course where I first
expected the problem to be <BG>) and then recreated it. Then I did the same
thing on our Qube 3 and they still got the error. So I created a "temp"
account to test that it definitely was not Microsoft and that works fine.
That was almost a week ago and I had spaced it until I saw this so that
"certain amount of time" must be a doozie :-)

Is it safe to just delete this file ?

Thanks,

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave - Technical
Support
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:04 AM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue

Try using ls -a That will show you all the hidden files in the folder. I've
noticed this happens if a person is in the middle of downloading their email
and then cancels the download. The server creates this lock file and wont
let them back in a for a few minutes. I believe the file does get deleted
after a certain amount of time. Hope this helps.

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Arsenault" <mikea@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue


> This has been covered in the mailing list before, but I swear I could not
> implement any of the solutions previously provided!
>
> Here is the problem we are having:
>
> We are getting this error message for a particular user of our e-mail
> services on a RaQ4 server:
>
> "The server for account userX@xxxxxxxxxx returned the error '[IN-USE]
> /var/spool/mail/.userX.pop lock busy! Is there another session active?
(11)'
> Your username/pasword or security settings may be incorrect."
>
> The user is connecting to the mail server using Microsoft Entourage for
Mac.
> I have tried going on the mail server directly using telnet, but I cannot
> for the life of me find the '.userX.pop' file! There is a file merely
named
> 'userX' in the /var/spool/mail/ directory, but I was loathe to just out
and
> out delete it until I knew if that was this user's actual account file or
> just a locking file.
>
> I am a Linux novice, so maybe there is just some switch I am miising on
the
> 'ls' command to find this file? It's a bit strange regardless...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Mike Arsenault
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:07:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Waugh <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chuck Lewis wrote:

> I did that for our problem and the user is STILL getting that error. And
the
> file is recreated.
>
> Any other ideas what could be causing this ?

How often is the user checking his email?

Gerald
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Message: 3
From: "Dave - Technical Support" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:38:36 -0400
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Do they have a large file in there?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Waugh" <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue


> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chuck Lewis wrote:
>
> > I did that for our problem and the user is STILL getting that error. And
the
> > file is recreated.
> >
> > Any other ideas what could be causing this ?
>
> How often is the user checking his email?
>
> Gerald
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Message: 4
From: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:50:12 -0500
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Not sure, but that is a possibility as this is one of two folks on our
Graphic Arts department that are working our catalog and emailing files back
and forth...

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave - Technical
Support
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:39 PM
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue

Do they have a large file in there?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald Waugh" <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Weird E-Mail Locking Issue


> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Chuck Lewis wrote:
>
> > I did that for our problem and the user is STILL getting that error. And
the
> > file is recreated.
> >
> > Any other ideas what could be causing this ?
>
> How often is the user checking his email?
>
> Gerald
> --
> http://frontstreetnetworks.com | http://store.raqware.com
>   Front Street Networks LLC, 229 Front Street, Ste.#C
>   New Haven, CT 06513-3203 | phone: +1-203-785-0699
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:43:14 -0500
From: "Ligard, Vidar" <vligard@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [cobalt-users] OT: NFS/SMB through a Firewall - Security
Recommendations
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Folks,
I have got two linux severs, one on the inside of our firewall, the other on
the DMZ. The one on the DMZ is the Cobalt web server, the one on the inside
is used as a backup server amongst other things.

I am getting sort of tired of using ftp every time I need to upload a web
page, and was wondering if I have any easier options which are secure.

I have tried setting up a mirror on the internal server with a program that
automatically uploads the changes whenever they are made on the inside. The
inside server then has samba so I can easily get to it from my Win
Workstation. Problem is, I was not able to find a good syncronization
program that uses the ftp protocol. I wrote my own, but it was just too
buggy and clumpsy :(

Now, I am wondering if there would be a good way to setup a fileshare
between the two linux servers. Can that me made secure?? In other words, if
I should have a security breach on the outside server, how would I be able
to block them from coming into my internal server through the file share.
Would it be fairly safe if the outside server was the fileshare server,
while the inside would mount the system, being the client. What fileshare
protocol would be recommended? SMB or NFS?

If anyone has any thought on this, or know of a good efficient way to upload
their updated web pages, I would really appreciate it. To me, it just gets
tiring to have to manually upload every change, instead of just having a
directory or folder to drop the new changes into.

Vidar

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Message: 6
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Raq 3i with big drives {Scanned}
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:00:49 +0200
From: "H.P. Noordam" <bno@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Adam J. Dein wrote:
> 
> > I was wondering if anyone had every attempted to, or better yet 
> > successfully completed, put in some rather large drives in 
> a Raq 3i. 
> > My 3i is running as a 4r right now and I wanted to upgrade 
> from twin 
> > 20gb drives to twin Maxtor 5400rpm 160gb drives.
> >
> > So far I've tried an OS install as a Raq 4r and a Raq 550 
> to no avail. 
> > The install appears to complete but both instances hang 
> somewhere in 
> > the boot process.
> >
> > Any ideas? Are these drives just too darn big? If so, 
> what's the max I 
> > can stick in there?
> 
> AFAIK 120Gb drives are the max, seems like Bruce Timberlake 
> mentioned this also.
> 


Correct. I crammed in 200Gb drives just to see what happens. The Qube, &
RAQ correctly identify them in dmesg, but partitioning and formatting
becomes a mess. 

Bob.


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:55:32 +0200
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] OT: NFS/SMB through a Firewall - Security
	Recommendations
From: Ren=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SBN+A==?=lsted <molsted@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Den 25/09/03 20:43 jodlede Ligard, Vidar <vligard@xxxxxxxxx>:
...
> 
> Now, I am wondering if there would be a good way to setup a fileshare
between
> the two linux servers. Can that me made secure?? In other words, if I
should
> have a security breach on the outside server, how would I be able to block
> them from coming into my internal server through the file share. Would it
be
> fairly safe if the outside server was the fileshare server, while the
inside
> would mount the system, being the client. What fileshare protocol would be
> recommended? SMB or NFS?
...

I would say that rsync would do the job, I'm not sure if it supports
scp/sftp, anyway you can get more info here:
http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/

René



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