RE: [cobalt-users] Wacky Wednesday turns Insane Wednesday

["David J. Duffner" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dan Kriwitsky
>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:47 PM
>To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Wacky Wednesday turns Insane Wednesday
>>
>> If I actually could apply a mail
>> filter with all the bits of the Meta-FAQ killing messages
>> before I saw them, I'd wonder if this List was even working.
>> I might see 2-3 posts a month.
>
>I see very few posts that I would say fall under the part of the FAQ
>that says they shouldn't be posted.

	We've been down this road before.  I was speaking more
to the random interpretation of the pseduo-FAQ you're so
fond of.  But I've been aware for a long time it's hard
for you to think outside of the box, so there we have it.

>> 	Hmmm, let's think on this one... So he uses an albeit
>> ingenious but not totally ethical marketing ploy to
>> (essentially) provide some final beta test copies for free to
>> the List vs. the General Public.
>
>Hmmm, I don't think I saw anything that says beta. He said
>the first 5 were free, then he was selling them. If they
>were beta, I don't think he'd, (I hope he wouldn't), be selling them.

	I believe he mentioned a call for any problems or
issues, and respectfully asked that they be placed on
his support site for the product.  My point, you obviously
missed, is that the post could be taken in one of two
ways and therefore the complaint process was rather
pointless to start a huge thread on.  Never stated that
it was a proper or foul post, was speaking directly on
this part.

>>  Therefore - he's toast.  Somehow I'm
>> missing the point of complaining about it on the List vs.
>> sending him a note directly...
>
>Pot, kettle, black. You could have done the same.

	But then what would you have such wonderful time
to waste with replies?

>> 	AND NOW:  I'd like to file a formal complaint about
>> the complainers.
>
>Start by looking in the mirror.

	Rather impossible in this case, you clearly state
any responses to you are immediately ignored and therefore
HAVE to be placed in this forum.  Pot, kettle, black,
checkmate.

>> Someone starts threads of this nature and
>> they turn into week-long whining battles that take up more
>> bandwidth than someone being smart enough to simply send a
>> note to the Author and let them know how you feel.
>
>And you didn't do that, because??

	My entire life's goal is now to drive you completely
insane <GRIN>.

>> 	So, how about we ban anything even closely resembling
>> Spam, Commercial Advertising,
>
>Those are banned. Although I'm not sure about the "closely
>resembling" part. I would say his original posts were ads.
>If he sent them all directly to each member of the list
>instead of posting to the list I'm sure you would consider
>it spam.

	Incorrect.  I'd do exactly what you and several
other posters to this List did and check the thing out if I
had a need for that particular product.

	And 'closely resembling' goes to interpretation again,
we've determined that's a moot point in your direction.

>> (Wait, kill this, it's Commercial)
>
>It's also among the biggest sigs I've ever seen. 4 lines is the
>standard.

	We went rounds on this months ago.  This List is the
ONLY one I belong to and have seen that has complaints as
to top-posting, sigs and all the other nitpicking issues
determined solely by a chosen few.

	6 lines, sans --- is the max.  Sometimes sigs are
eliminated.  Since there is nothing in writing demanding
that sigs here be specifically no more or less than 4
lines, inclusive of whatever, 6 works for me.  Also
works everywhere else I have to deal with it.  Others
use 1-2, 3-4, etc.

>C2003 Dan Kriwitsky
>
>Please reply to the list only. Off list replies are not read.

      David J. Duffner
      VP Operations
      NWC Corporation
      www.nwcxpress.com

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