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Re: [cobalt-users] Re: Future of Cobalt
- Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Re: Future of Cobalt
- From: Greg Hewitt-Long <cobaltusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu Jun 5 07:59:12 2003
- List-id: Mailing list for users to share thoughts on Sun Cobalt products. <cobalt-users.list.cobalt.com>
>Greg Hewitt-Long wrote:
>
>> As I said in my previous reply - the only solution at the moment
>> appears to be plesk/cpanel - which at $1500 per server is RIDICULOUS
>> for a low level server appliance.
>
>Where did you get that price from? Plesk is the only one I have
>day-to-day experience with; an unlimited domain license is less than
>half that.
ok - cpanel is $1500 for the unlimited domains, doesn't time-out license. That would be *MY* preferred route - it fits our requirements better than plesk or ensim.
I'm sure everyone has their own preferences, but I'm seeing a move towards CPanel in the hosting community in general as a superior solution for hosting companies wishing to attract small web designers, or customers with multiple accounts (the feature set appears to lend itself perfectly to this market - the other - Plesk and ensim - don't handle this so well).
Either way - $750 on top of the price of the box brings you to around $1500 per machine, at $1500 for CPanel, that's $2250 - for admittedly a much better specced machine than a cobalt... but those license fees are massive compared to grabbing a new refurb RAQ3/4 from say, Gerald at $750 (tops) and slamming 100-250 clients on it. That's a hardware/software investment of $7.50 a client at 100 clients - eith a $1500 investment in hard/software - that is twice a much - now, I *KNOW* the machine will handle many more clients EVENTUALLY - but getting to that number of clients isn't FAST for some of us.
It's not so much that it can't be justified, but but the initial hit is bigger - I know I have to justify every spend in our office (and I'm one of the owners!) - and it's easier to get < $1,000 than it is > $2,000!!
I'm sure it would be different if we were picking up 10-20 accounts a day - we're not though, and that's a bit of a chicken and egg situation.
regards
Greg
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