Re: [cobalt-users] Sun Fire V100/V120

["Mike's List" <mikelist@xxxxxxx>]

I think this is what we're all talking about, not to the extend of
extending/prolonging the Raq3/4, etc. but what are the alternatives
of a new box for upgrading services or continuing hostings.

Someone mentioned ensim and plesk, but both are not cost-effective?
I'm not sure what the prices are but I think most on the list prefer
the control and feel of the Cobalt on a white box or other platform.

So to briefly summarize, no we're not looking to extend the 450Mhz
onto the 22nd century, but a generic solutions to get a box up and
running w/the feel and ease of the Cobalt.

Of course one can resell, but most on the list feels there's more
autonomy and perhaps more revenue going your own route.  Ok, maybe
it's just me ;)

Another option is perhaps one of the bigger web-hosting company will
resell/license their user's control panel?  No sense in re-inventing
the wheel when every large hosting company gots their own GUI...


- Mike


On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, alan@ wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I admire all your enthusiasm, but...
> 
> Is it really a good idea to expend so much time and effort on extending the
> life of machines that are, lets face it, past the sell by date ?
> 
> I don't mean to be rude, but when processors are cheap, memory is cheaper,
> and Hdisks are cheap, what is the point in trying to drag RAQs into the 21st
> century ?
> 
> Only one point seems to come up again and again... the GUI.
> 
> I use the raq gui and Ensim on a white box, and although the ensim offers
> more options thru the gui, the raq is easier to use.
> 
> I realise that linux doesn't need 2 gig cpus etc, but, lets face it, pretty
> soon, the market will be so small for replacement parts that the boxes will
> die anyway.
> 
> I see the future as a decent gui, as the raq provides (for inexperienced
> users), not sticking with a 450 Mhz cpu just because its expensive to
> replace now.
> 
> Sun may or may not have effectively killed this product, but they are in
> business, as are we. We have to move on and as the saying goes "adopt, adapt
> and improve".
> By all means extend the life of your existing machines if you can, but the
> end is in sight. I for one am looking for alternatives for any product that
> I buy NOW. You have to look long term, even though in this business that
> means 6 months max.
> 
> Besides which, of course, larger companies than I, can afford to rent me
> machines and Bwidth at a cost far below anything I can achieve, so it
> becomes inefficient to run the low spec machines. Plus of course there is
> always an upgrade path available with rental, whereas the buy outright
> option leaves me with a doorstop increasingly swiftly.
> 
> I will be sorry to see the end of the raqs but, hey, its only a tool.
> 
> Alan (trying to be fair but sane)
> 
> 
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