RE: [cobalt-users] commercial list use (Re: [RaQ3] Need PHPpackage for original RaQ3...)

["E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

DK> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:30:18 -0500
DK> From: Dan Kriwitsky


DK> I was making an example of EB's "when did you stop beating
DK> your wife" post directed at Jeff. I'm not sure what the

You tried.  The problem is, my statement was based on facts which
Jeff _has_ mentioned on various lists.  Your statement had zero
basis in fact.

Try again.


DK> connection between Jeff's reply to someone asking about a PHP
DK> package was and making some accusation against Jeff's network
DK> security was. (Although I'm unaware of any network running

The connection is:

* Some feel Jeff was a bit too commercial in his post

* In mid-October, he made a similar such post:

	"Most of my clients are small hosting companies, and
	frankly you fit right in."

  I'm sure others contacted the OP off-list if they had any
  pitches to deliver.  Making such statements on-list encourages
  everyone to jump in and state their offerings to the same
  audience Jeff has/had.

* There are others who can deliver better who do not make such
  claims on-list.  I don't know how many are on this list...
  perhaps the lack of posts means there are none.  Or perhaps it
  means that others follow a different standard of netiquette.


DK> web servers that can claim 100% security.)

There is none.

However, continuing to solicit customers with the knowledge of a
flaw is questionable.  Doing it on-list despite the AUP is
downright yucky.

I also clarified that I wish Jeff no ill will, and am not
singling him out more than others.  I've enjoyed talking to him
on the phone.  I've scolded him for posts before, and he's
scolded me.  Life goes on.


Eddy
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