Re: [cobalt-users] meta-verify -f messed up GUI

[Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Julius wrote:

> They are way too complex for the tasks one needs to perform;
> Again, WHY do I need to know a user-ID, a group-ID etc. etc.
> only to add a standard default user? I don't.

You do.  It's the way linux/unix works.

> It's a man page writer freaking out on his/her own product,
> not thinking about the possible confusion it might invoke
> on the reader who doesn't give a rats ass and who doesn't
> have time to read badly written manuals without ONE example
> commandline in it. These man pages are truly a pain,
> written by anti-socials, not with much care IMO.

Tens of thousands of linux/unix users are wrong then and you're right.

> > Sorry, I can't help you if I don't know what you want to do.
> 
> You're only out for some discussion about things
> that will not help anybody. I'm not, sorry.

Says you, who responds to every attempt to help with "that won't help".

> NO, again, THEY ARE NOT EXPLAINED there. It is a collection
> of non-explanatory commands put in a textfile by a developer,
> not by someone caring for the reader to understand what
> to do with them. They lack examples, for one.

Linux is written by volunteer help.  You may volunteer to do anything
you think needs to be done differently.

> Why do you want it to be so black and white all the time?
> Sun Cobalt should have thought of creating a nice commandline
> backup-shell, which could perfectly function in place of
> all the web-admin pages.

They did.  They're command tools, and you've already said in one of your
posts that you don't want to use them because your RaQ is too new.

> One does NOT have to study things
> to use a commandline, if one can write, one can handle
> commands on a commandline. If you create a graphic shell
> for it, like Midnight Commander and the likes, you can
> leave the webpages alone and end up having a very fast
> and very secure way to admin your server.

Did you study the RaQ, to see if it had such a shell, before you bought
it?

> The way it is setup now for RaQs is way too vulnerable
> for mistakes and sensitive to erratic settings.
> It's much too easy to config the hell out of it,
> and end up with a non-functional server than when
> you would do it by use of a commandline.

Thousands of people successfully administrate RaQs.

Good luck with your Sun Cobalt RaQ server.

Jeff
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