[cobalt-users] A Lesson in Research (Was: Re: Another procmail recipe)

[Charlie Summers <charlie@xxxxxxxxxx>]

At 6:54 PM -0400 5/22/02, Paul Jacobs annoyed the list by typing:

> Dude,

   That's Mister Summers to you - you haven't earned the right to address me
informally. I do, however, owe you thanks for repeating the procmail recipe
to drop your posts into the bit-bucket where they belong a few additional
times. One can never repeat important information like that often enough, I
agree. Perhaps you'll even consider using it to filter your own mail, so you
can avoid annoying yourself with your own missives?

> do a little more looking and you will see that the 65.240.69.*
> address range was not given out by media3, a simple search at arin.net
> would show this...

   As usual, Mr. Jacobs intentionally misinterprets to fit the narrow
worldview he is capable of forming, so I ask the list's indulgence while I
give this infortunate a lesson in how to properly research something on the
Internet. To be precise, what I said was, "Son of a gun...shoulda figured
Media3 would be involved somehow," never saying _anything_ about controlling
the C netblock. Unlike Mr. Jacobs, who apparently thinks everyone else is as
dimwitted as he, I _did_ thoroughly research it; no matter how hard he tries
to run away from this company's connection to Media3 (I would, too), at a
minimum they operate the nameservers for "Advanced Data Solutions/Advanced
Data Recovery," with which Mr. Jacobs is unquestionably linked, and so are
"involved." Although admittedly ARIN shows the netblock owned by
UUNet/Advanced Data Solutions, one only needs to look up adv-data.com to see
the obvious connection to Media3. To follow the thread of the research,
simply as instruction to teach him how it was done:

:whois 65.240.69.26
UUNET Technologies, Inc. (NETBLK-UUNET65-2) UUNET65-2
                                                   65.240.0.0 - 65.245.255.255
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC (NETBLK-UU-65-240-69) UU-65-240-69
                                                   65.240.69.0 - 65.240.69.255

To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx is the
handle, shown in parenthesis following the name, which comes first.


:whois -h whois.arin.net NETBLK-UU-65-240-69
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC (NETBLK-UU-65-240-69)
   2605 Hoover Ave
   National City, CA 91950
   US

   Netname: UU-65-240-69
   Netblock: 65.240.69.0 - 65.240.69.255

   Coordinator:
      Jacobs, Paul  (PJ287-ARIN)  pjacobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx
      619-336-1400

   Record last updated on 25-Apr-2002.
   Database last updated on  21-May-2002 19:59:44 EDT.


:whois adv-data.com
Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: ADV-DATA.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: NS.MEDIA3.NET
   Name Server: NS2.MEDIA3.NET
   Updated Date: 07-dec-2001

>>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:50:27 EDT <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.

Found InterNIC referral to whois.networksolutions.com.

Registrant:
International Tradenet (ADV-DATA-DOM)
   4221 Bonita Rd #13
   Bonita, CA 91902-1432

   Domain Name: ADV-DATA.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Cruz, Jose  (JC21731)             sales@xxxxxxxxxxxx
      Advanced Data Recovery, LLC.
      2605 Hoover ave. Suite F.
      National City , CA 91950
      619-336-1400 (FAX) 619-336-1406
   Technical Contact:
      Services,Administration  (SA271-ORG)              admin@xxxxxxxxxx
      Media3 Technologies
      North River Commerce Park
      Pembroke, MA 02359
      US
      781-963-6050
      Fax- - - - - - 781-826-1513

   Record expires on 23-Nov-2005.
   Record created on 22-Nov-1996.
   Database last updated on 22-May-2002 21:19:45 EDT.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS.MEDIA3.NET                208.249.122.250
   NS2.MEDIA3.NET               206.67.48.250


   And so, I note again, "Son of a gun...shoulda figured Media3 would be
involved somehow." QED.

> If your going to flame get your facts right man.

   Always, child. I never engage in a battle of wits unarmed, the way you
consistantly do. Oh, and if you think I'm flaming you, you are assigning
yourself _way_ too much importance. I only flame those I respect, and when I
do, they do not get back up without months in a burn unit. I am simply
correcting and dismissing you, and even that is more attention than you
warrant.

         Charlie Summers

   P.S. I'm done wasting time on this imbecile, and apologize to the rest of
the list for wasting the bandwidth. I can only hope the volunteer list
managers, who I'm certain have much more pressing things to take care of,
will unsubscribe this clown at their earliest opportunity to spare the rest
of us his nonsense. Enough is enough...make him go bother the Apple people
with his unnecessary and unintelligent drivel.

         Me