[cobalt-users] Re: cobalt-users digest, Vol 1 #4267 - 15 msgs

[Grant Stern <grantstern@xxxxxxx>]

Jeff Lasman wrote:

>>> And sharing it puts you into the colo business, out of your core area of
>>> expertise; the area in which you can make money.
>> 
>> Ok, true, but making the sales and the sites for one, always a good idea.
> 
> Not sure I understand.  Owning a colo center will NOT assure you of any
> work developing sites.  Except for your own colo center, and I don't see
> that paying too well <smile>.

It will when I send out my employee (ok, well contracted employee:) to sell
off sites, and space if needs be.

>> Ok, see above.  This really is a special case.  Tour our facilities :)
>> http://www.openmri4u.com
>> I made that site :)
> 
> Then I hope you don't mind me telling you that while it comes up fine on
> IE, it took over five minutes for it to come up on Netscape 4.72, and
> almost a minute on Netscape 6.2.2.

Call your isp and complain.  Comes in right quick on Mozilla.  Why use
Netscape anyway?  Ninety percent of my pages load in under 10 seconds.
That's why they pay me the big bucks!

> And the traceroute won't go all the way through; is it on a DSL
> connection?  That's one of the "symptoms" of DSL.

Site is hosted at XO communications right now.  I don't have too high an
opinion of them, except for one really cool guy I spoke with who has been
there since the beginning.

>> I'll pay cash if you have some change to spare.  But I am looking for
>> investors.  Lol.  Anyone want to fund my .com startup, I'll give you a
>> business plan after the check cashes. ;)
> 
> Wait a second... you're looking for investors for a colo center with so
> many of them empty across the U.S.?

No just for real investment.  I'd love a nice 10k sq. ft. warehouse, there
are some great lofts just starting to pop up in the area, wouldn't mind
owning one (loft building) renting isn't good policy when buying would cost
the same.  Loft costs 1600 a month, whole warehouse has 5k/mo. Mortgage.
Wish I could afford that.  Not really cobalt related this topic though . . .
 
> Now I understand what you mean by "pipe dreams" <smile>.

If you're writing the checks, it will be a pipe orgy! lol.

>> He's cramped for space at the moment, and they provide the raq.  It is a
>> first class data center though, lotsa climate control, security, etc.  Much
>> better than a previous co-lo, where they would unplug their hardware
>> firewall when they cleaned the server Rack.  We had to call them to remind
>> them to plug it back in :(
> 
> Will do.  We have a RaQ at the same price as your friend.  It's got 500
> megs of memory, and two 30 Gigabyte hard drives (runs Raid).

Mmm. Sounds nice, but I'll pass.  I'm gonna pick me up a nice raq 3 or 4
this week, I think.  Bruce has me excited and in a mood to wait though.

>> I have one and am going to make it a nice dedicated dns box soon.
>> If you want, I have the full 7.6 os on floppy and cd.  It runs very well on
>> old i386 machines too.  We put it on a 166 back then and it screamed.  I
>> prefer os x.  will make a bigger post about that soon, if asked.  Will
>> switch full time next week when new dsl modem arrives.
> 
> Does OS-X run unchanged on the Next box?  That'll give the hardware some
> survival value <smile>.

No, OS X is derived from the NeXT step os.  Everything, the kernel, the
dock.  Just think, 25 mhz ppc and 16 mb ram, back in 1988.  If you're
interested, http://www.gnustep.org has everything you need, but I think
you'll have a  hard time finding the post script display monitor to get the
full effect.  Its ultra stable too.

> I don't do anything Apple; never did, though they were casual friends
> back in the mid 70s.  Almost everyone was; I was a founding member of
> Homebrew, first in Gordon French's garage, later at the Linear
> Accelerator Lab at Stanford.

Just like the Raq, the interface and overall functionality make the mac
oustanding today.  You should hop on it just to see the fantastic tcsh shell
it comes with, very smart terminal!  Just like that raq, that doesn't make
it for everybody.  Its all about learning curve, and Apple has a very low
curve for all levels of user, from know nothing (I spent a day a few weeks
ago teaching a woman how to use a mouse on her new mac) to graphic artists
(who usually seem to know just more than the aformentioned computer
illiterate).  The greatest testament to this idea is that my pupil now uses
hotkeys and shortcuts for everything now, after only two weeks.  Now if she
would just plug in the printer before trying to print  . . . .


>>> The price I mentioned is real and available today.  Perhaps you're
>>> talking to the wrong Cogent people?
>>> 
>>> Or perhaps they've started raising prices and Miami is first?  I don't
>>> know.
>> 
>> Entirely possible, zone pricing.  Gas stations do it, no reason that
>> bandwidth providers wouldn't.
> 
> I'll try to remember to do some asking around.

I feel bad for those poor people, I think their company seems doomed.

Wish me luck (in staying awake) with my surgery.

Grant
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