[cobalt-users] Need advice on Colocating or Self Location

[Grant Stern <grantstern@xxxxxxx>]

So you wanna colo at home . . . .
Come to Miami!  We have a nice new nap here, and the colo prices have been
dropping.  Telco prices are dropping and the land near our nap is still
cheap, you could get a 10k sq facility that needs a tech-makeover for 3-5k a
month for purchase.

I'm a web designer more than an internet host (at least earning more from
the former than the latter).  However, I took a shot at home hosting, to be
foiled by a partner's greed.  What I learned though is,

Downtown Miami is an ideal place to start a hosting company.

The real estate is dirt cheap for the downtown of a major metropolitan city,

and zero loop=speed at low cost (ie. T1 for 700 a month and at blazing low
latency).

You can buy a cabinet at the Miami Nap for an incredibly reasonable amount.
I'm talking about the real NAP too, not the Terramark hosting center that
everyone talks about down the road, but the actual POP for all the big boys.
However, the price on both is reasonable, and at Terramark's "nap" is
getting cheaper by the day (though they are struggling having opened in june
2001, but just got more financing yesterday), I had an isp offer me co-lo at
the nap for 1300 a month, but I forgot at this point weather it was for a
box or a cabinet of my own.

But, there are opportunities to buy here as well.  For those who don't know
(I assume most folks on the list), there is a nasty neighborhood attached to
downtown Miami that is being rebuilt at the moment.

>>Dan Kriwitsky wrote:

>> How much like Yipes?
>> 
>> "March 22, 2002-Yipes Communications, Inc., the defining provider of
>> instantly scalable Ethernet services, today announced that it is seeking
>> to restructure its business to enhance future growth opportunities.

>Jeff Lasman wrote:

>Just like everyone else, Dan.  They were depending on the dot-com
>bubble.

>They, and two other companies, laid big empty pipes under my street
>almost two years ago.  Big empty pipes, waiting to have fiber blown into
>them.

Have you called them and asked how much an install is?  When I asked, it was
only 1400 for install, and then monthly fees.  Of course I was at zero loop,
so the install didn't have to go to far.

>They sit there empty, I can't get that kind of connectivity here, and
>the big carrier-neutral colocation company that was supposed to build
>here has quietly disappeared <frown>.

>Yes there are bargains in colocation to be had (I drive about 90 miles
>to mine), but we have to continually ask ourselves... is our colo
>company going to be there next year.  Next month?

If you could stomach cross-country co-lo.  I have a nice deal on my box at
spidergate.net.  They do support sites and marketing for citigroup and
burger king and lots of other stuff and would love to have another co-lo.
They are going to be there, and have a nice dual t3 backbone, yadayadayada.
Just tell him I sent u if u mail him.


>But then you already know that, don't you <frown>?

>The big company everyone's talking about now is Cogent.  If you're in
>the right building you can get 100mbps for $1,000/month.  But they're
>losing a fortune every month, too.

Yup. Or find a commercial cable provider.  I just spoke with cogent, and its
3000 a month if you're a service provider (host, asp, etc.) only 1000 for
end users (offices, wan).  They do things like list jacksonville as a
serviced city, but only service one building there.  They do service the
Miami NAP though, so you'd be paying around 5500 for co-lo and bandwidth
here, until cogent bites it.

Good luck and pipe dreams,

grant
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