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[cobalt-users] Trouble with cathcall email
- Subject: [cobalt-users] Trouble with cathcall email
- From: douganla@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon Feb 18 07:11:03 2002
- List-id: Mailing list for users to share thoughts on Cobalt products. <cobalt-users.list.cobalt.com>
I am having trouble setting up a Catchall email account for a domain on a
Raq4r. I followed the instructions in the manual "enter
"@hostname.domainname" in the Email alias window" but they do not work. The
domain name is listed in email server parameters and it is not a Cname. Any
suggestions?
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. RE: root access (Andy Brown)
> 2. Re: root access (David Lucas)
> 3. RE: Qube 3 Samba upgrade? (Andy Brown)
> 4. RE: Apache DNS lookups (Andy Brown)
> 5. RE: TCP fragment (Andy Brown)
> 6. Re: Apache DNS lookups (Jelmer Jellema)
> 7. [RaQ4] Ready to use OS update 2.0 (Jelmer Jellema)
> 8. DNS not on my server but site is (Andy Jacobs)
> 9. AW: [cobalt-users] root access (CMO - Thorsten Mitschele)
> 10. RE: POP before SMTP? where? (Dan Kriwitsky)
> 11. RE: Vendor's Stick Together? (Dan Kriwitsky)
> 12. Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] POP before SMTP? where? (Gerald Waugh)
> 13. Re: root access (DenIT Internet Services [Thijs])
> 14. help with security (Mike Gibson)
> 15. How To Install Updates? (List)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] root access
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:10:09 -0000
> From: "Andy Brown" <andy.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> >
> > More dumb questions...
> >
> > when I try to "su root" using my admin password, I'm told
> > it's incorrect.
> >
> > how do I get root access to my own machine?
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
> Not necessarily a dumb question, I recently had a Qube3 that was rebuilt
> using the restore CD, and somehow I ended up with my own password for
> the admin account (Web interface, admin user account, etc) BUT whenever
> I su'd up to root, it was the wrong password. I tried everything, and in
> the end I accidentally typed admin at the su - prompt and it worked!
> So try putting in ADMIN in case something has gone amiss, after doing
> that make sure you set the password correctly using passwd.
>
> Also, don't forget the possibility of a hacker, so make sure you are NOT
> using telnet, use SSH instead, and general security procedures.
>
> Regards,
> andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://ineedlinux.info/
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 03:14:45 -0600
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> From: David Lucas <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] root access
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> At 01:37 AM 2/13/2002, you wrote:
> >More dumb questions...
> >
> >when I try to "su root" using my admin password, I'm told it's incorrect.
> >
> >how do I get root access to my own machine?
> >
> >Rick
>
>
> Change the password in the GUI for the administrator
> It will change the password for admin and root
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Qube 3 Samba upgrade?
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:15:13 -0000
> From: "Andy Brown" <andy.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> > In message <B88FCEFC.6CEB5%mmcleary@xxxxxxx>, Malcolm McLeary
> > <mmcleary@xxxxxxx> writes
> > >Hi Jason,
> > >
> > >on 13/2/02 12:08 AM, Jason Crouch at lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm keen to deploy a roving profiles system on our network
> > (everyone
> > >> wants their own Outlook on every desk), and can achieve this
> > >> relatively easily (for some values of ... ) using Samba 2.2.3a to
> > >> transform a RH6.2 box into a PDC with (fairly) full w2k domain
> > >> support.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >To the best of my knowledge this is possible with a Qube3
> > straight out
> > >the box. It fact it was supported on the Qube2 as well.
> >
> > Knew there was something I'd forgotten to mention! Most of
> > the clients
> > are W2k so (as you later say) they pretty much want a real PDC :(
>
>
> To the best of my knowledge if you already know the Samba version that
> you can do this with (I've not done this, although its sparked an
> inspiration to try it) RPM packages of samba.
> The Qube's use an Intel architecture, so you'll find that just getting
> an RPM of the version you want and installing that should do the job.
>
> Depending on how often you use/need to use the web-based admin, then it
> may be worth getting a source tar ball instead of RPM and compiling it
> to use a different smb.conf/smbpasswd etc file location so that you can
> make changes, and each time something changes on the web admin interface
> it doesn't overwrite your config file.
>
>
> Regards,
> andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://ineedlinux.info/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Apache DNS lookups
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:21:27 -0000
> From: "Andy Brown" <andy.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm running webalizer with DNS lookups on the web.log files.
> > The DNS lookups take a long time (on average 150
> > address/min). What implications would it have to switch on
> > DNS lookups for Apache?
> > IMO this would spread the load of doing the lookups or am I wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Edwin
>
>
> Hi Edwin,
> I would recommend leaving your logs DNS work to be handled by Webalizer.
> The reason is because webalizer is an off-line package, i.e. it doesn't
> actually push data directly to site visitors, it simply runs, does its
> work and writes out html that can be viewed later.
>
> Therefore it doesn't impact upon when people actually look at their log
> files/web sites. However, turning dns lookups ON in Apache DOES cause a
> slow-down, because apache has to deal with the DNS lookup, wait for the
> reply then log it. This can cause connections to view any web-page to
> slow down which is definitely undesirable.
>
> As you mentioned spreading the work-load, it wouldn't achieve this as it
> would concentrate the load onto Apache, then webalizer would have an
> easy life since it wouldn't have to do any DNS look-ups.
>
> One minor thing you could check, and that is what DNS server you're
> using in the /etc/resolv.conf and see if you can find one closer/faster
> to use if you think the DNS is a problem, although the timings you say
> seem pretty speedy to me.
>
> Regards,
> andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://ineedlinux.info/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] TCP fragment
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:44:31 -0000
> From: "Andy Brown" <andy.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > Any ideas of what the following message means?
> >
> > Feb 8 00:19:35 ns kernel: Suspect TCP fragment.
> > Feb 8 00:19:35 ns kernel: eth0 PROTO=6 67.8.24.34:0
> > 64.65.33.119:0 L=40 S=0x00 I=0 F=0x0001 T=237 (#0)
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> Hi,
>
> This is a possible attempted DOS attack on your machine, so you should
> make sure your firewall is in place and doing its job.
> In the kernel source there is a little blurb about it:
> /*
> * Don't allow a fragment of TCP 8 bytes in. Nobody
> * normal causes this. Its a cracker trying to break
> * in by doing a flag overwrite to pass the direction
> * checks.
> */
>
>
> Regards,
> andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://ineedlinux.info/
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Jelmer Jellema" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Apache DNS lookups
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:18:56 +0100
> Organization: Spin in het Web (www.spininhetweb.nl)
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi,
>
> Related to this: I tried to find a way to let webalizer do the DNS
> lookups,
> but the only thing I found was a script that turned the first field in
> every
> log line into a looked-up name. On cobalts this should be the *second*
> field, so I would have had to rewrite the script. I will one day, but for
> now I just turned on DNS-lookups by apache.
>
> Question: Reading this thread I get the impression there is a simple way,
> like a config-directive, to tell webalizer to do DNS lookups. Is this
> true?
>
> Jelmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Brown" <andy.brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Apache DNS lookups
>
>
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'm running webalizer with DNS lookups on the web.log files.
> > > The DNS lookups take a long time (on average 150
> > > address/min). What implications would it have to switch on
> > > DNS lookups for Apache?
> > > IMO this would spread the load of doing the lookups or am I wrong?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Edwin
> >
> >
> > Hi Edwin,
> > I would recommend leaving your logs DNS work to be handled by Webalizer.
> > The reason is because webalizer is an off-line package, i.e. it doesn't
> > actually push data directly to site visitors, it simply runs, does its
> > work and writes out html that can be viewed later.
> >
> > Therefore it doesn't impact upon when people actually look at their log
> > files/web sites. However, turning dns lookups ON in Apache DOES cause a
> > slow-down, because apache has to deal with the DNS lookup, wait for the
> > reply then log it. This can cause connections to view any web-page to
> > slow down which is definitely undesirable.
> >
> > As you mentioned spreading the work-load, it wouldn't achieve this as it
> > would concentrate the load onto Apache, then webalizer would have an
> > easy life since it wouldn't have to do any DNS look-ups.
> >
> > One minor thing you could check, and that is what DNS server you're
> > using in the /etc/resolv.conf and see if you can find one closer/faster
> > to use if you think the DNS is a problem, although the timings you say
> > seem pretty speedy to me.
> >
> > Regards,
> > andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://ineedlinux.info/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To Subscribe or Unsubscribe, please go to:
> > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Jelmer Jellema" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Cobalt Users List" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:36:29 +0100
> Organization: Spin in het Web (www.spininhetweb.nl)
> Subject: [cobalt-users] [RaQ4] Ready to use OS update 2.0
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi All,
>
> At the risk of repeating a lot of other e-mails, I would like to find out
> if
> I'm save now to use the OS 2.0 update on my in-production RaQ. If I
> remember
> I've heard of the following problems:
>
> - PHP should be re-installed (no problem)
> - eth0 dissapearing (quite a problem, as I should have to cycle to the
> other
> end of town to get access to the server, and so have all the people who
> want
> to visit the hosted websites)
> - problems with makewhatis
> - problems with catchall aliases
> - things I allready forgot?
>
> Because people usualy only post when there is a problem I don't know if
> these issues appear often. My situation is: experencied unix sysop, not
> afraid to try thing, don't need a lot of extra work and cannot afford the
> system going offline too long.
>
> My questions are:
>
> (a) should I do the 2.0 update?
> (b) why?
>
> Jelmer
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Jelmer Jellema - Spin in het Web
> www.spininhetweb.nl
> Spin in het Web: Alle Touwtjes In Handen
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Spin in het Web is de producent van:
> www.visinhetnet.nl: Niet Het Laatste Nieuws
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> From: "Andy Jacobs" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Cobalt-Users" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:56:37 -0000
> Subject: [cobalt-users] DNS not on my server but site is
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi All,
>
> Hopefully a simple one and I'll try and keep it to bullet points:
>
> RAQ4
> Customer uses Easynet for ISP
> Domain name shows on Easynet's nameservers
> Web site is hosted on a box somewhere else
> I guess Easynet just redirect http requests to this other box
> Easynet handle all the e-mail for the domain
>
> I may be off track but I guess they would set up an a record to point to
> my
> IP address. I would then set up the site as normal with a records for
> www.domain.com and domain.com but _not_ mail.domain.com through the GUI.
> I
> guess I would then not need to set up mx records for the domain. Would I
> need to set up anything else or just the a records?
>
> Does any of this make sense? Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Andy Jacobs
> Media Marks
> Web Design, Hosting, Site Promotion
> Tel: 023 9241 3880
> www.mediamarks.net
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "CMO - Thorsten Mitschele" <mitschele@xxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: AW: [cobalt-users] root access
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:16:37 +0100
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> As i figured out, you cant get root if you log on as a user different than
> admin.
>
> You must be logged in first as admin user and su then to root
>
> on all our machines this happens:
>
> 1.
> log in as "someuser"
> su to root - wont work (password error)
>
> 2.
> log in as "someuser"
> su to admin (works)
> su to root (doesnt work - password error)
>
> 3.
> log in as "admin"
> su to root (works)
>
> Can anyone tell my WHY Point 1 and 2 dont work?
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>
> Thorsten Norman Mitschele
> Geschäftsführer
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> CMO Internet Dienstleistungen GmbH
> Postfach 13 35 72577 Dettingen / Erms
> Tel: 07123 / 72 67-0 Fax: 07123 / 72 67-150
> e-Mail: info@xxxxxx Web: http://www.cmo.de
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Im Auftrag von Rick Eames
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2002 08:37
> > An: Cobalt Users List
> > Betreff: [cobalt-users] root access
> >
> >
> > More dumb questions...
> >
> > when I try to "su root" using my admin password, I'm told it's
> incorrect.
> >
> > how do I get root access to my own machine?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > cobalt-users mailing list
> > cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To Subscribe or Unsubscribe, please go to:
> > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users
> >
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> From: "Dan Kriwitsky" <webhosting@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] POP before SMTP? where?
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:24:03 -0500
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > And if you have a rediculous ISP like me (Verizon) you can't
> > even send out through the ISPs SMTP unless your FROM address
> > is a verizon.net address. Nice.
> >
>
> And the best thing is, anyone in the world can use Verizon's SMTP if
> they use a valid From address @verizon.net. Not quite an open relay, but
> pretty close.
>
> --
> Dan Kriwitsky
>
>
>
>
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>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> From: "Dan Kriwitsky" <webhosting@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Vendor's Stick Together?
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:25:39 -0500
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> *plonk*
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: Gerald Waugh <gwaugh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [cobalt-users] POP before SMTP? where?
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:58:39 -0500
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, List wrote:
> > Hello Steve,
> >
> > I MUST BE NUTS OR BLIND? http://www.quantvantage.com/pop.gif
> >
> > or my brand new raq4 must the be the improved idiots version without
> > the pop to smtp control? another though is someone hacked in and
> > stole my pop to smtp setting, or you guys are playing a dirty trick on
> > me. mark
> >
> >
> > SW> Control Panel, Parameters (next to Email Server), check POP Before
> SMTP
> > SW> Relaying and set Relay Window to # of minutes you want the POP
> > SW> authentication to keep relay privileges open.
> >
> Look in controlPanel->Maintenance->InstallSoftware
> See if pop b4 smtp is listed.
> Your RaQ may not be up2date.
> If no go to http://cobalt.com/support/downloads.
> and get the pkg and install it.
>
> --
> Gerald Waugh
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> From: "DenIT Internet Services [Thijs]" <thijs@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] root access
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:14:45 +0100
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> To su to root you have to be in the "wheel" group, admin in this case is,
> while other "normal" users on you machine are not.
> That is why case 1 and 2 don't work, and case 3 does :)
>
> Regards,
> Thijs
>
>
> | As i figured out, you cant get root if you log on as a user different
> than
> | admin.
> |
> | You must be logged in first as admin user and su then to root
> |
> | on all our machines this happens:
> |
> | 1.
> | log in as "someuser"
> | su to root - wont work (password error)
> |
> | 2.
> | log in as "someuser"
> | su to admin (works)
> | su to root (doesnt work - password error)
> |
> | 3.
> | log in as "admin"
> | su to root (works)
> |
> | Can anyone tell my WHY Point 1 and 2 dont work?
> |
> | Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> |
> | Thorsten Norman Mitschele
> | Geschäftsführer
> |
> | ----------------------------------------------
> | CMO Internet Dienstleistungen GmbH
> | Postfach 13 35 72577 Dettingen / Erms
> | Tel: 07123 / 72 67-0 Fax: 07123 / 72 67-150
> | e-Mail: info@xxxxxx Web: http://www.cmo.de
> |
> |
> | > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> | > Von: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Im Auftrag von Rick Eames
> | > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2002 08:37
> | > An: Cobalt Users List
> | > Betreff: [cobalt-users] root access
> | >
> | >
> | > More dumb questions...
> | >
> | > when I try to "su root" using my admin password, I'm told it's
> incorrect.
> | >
> | > how do I get root access to my own machine?
> | >
> | > Rick
> | >
> | >
> | > _______________________________________________
> | > cobalt-users mailing list
> | > cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > To Subscribe or Unsubscribe, please go to:
> | > http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users
> | >
> | >
> |
> | _______________________________________________
> | cobalt-users mailing list
> | cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | To Subscribe or Unsubscribe, please go to:
> | http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users
> |
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> From: "Mike Gibson" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:48:27 -0600
> Subject: [cobalt-users] help with security
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> New to Linux but learning.....I continuously receive this message in
> /var/log/messages. Would some of you help me out with how I go about
> fixing
> this? Thanks for your help in advance! //Mike Gibson
>
> Feb 10 04:15:00 dsiinternet cced(smd)[28771]: client [0:28770] has admin
> rights
> Feb 10 04:30:00 dsiinternet cced(smd)[29548]: client [0:29547] has admin
> rights
> Feb 10 04:45:00 dsiinternet cced(smd)[30313]: client [0:30312] has admin
> rights
> Feb 10 04:51:27 dsiinternet cced(smd)[30671]: client [0:29165] has admin
> rights
> Feb 10 04:51:30 dsiinternet cced(smd)[30685]: client [0:29165] has admin
> rights
> Feb 10 04:51:38 dsiinternet cced(smd)[30698]: client [0:29165] has admin
> rights
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:07:46 -0600
> From: List <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] How To Install Updates?
> Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hello Gerald,
>
> first - thanks all you people for all the help. while i am a total
> newbie to raq4 i do understand computers and the net somewhat. i am
> completely lost at what all you people are doing with these command
> lines you are posting. i bought this machine so that i didn't have to
> do all that, and now find out i have a brand new out of date os raq4.
>
> i don't understand why sun didn't install the latest software on this
> machine. anyway can someone post a 1-2-3- type Basic Step of how i
> put all those friggin patches on my machine. i have this thing
> plugged into a router, and am puzzled how you guys are even finding a
> a place to type command lines in the browser interface?
>
> ps hoping you'll tell me this patch stuff is a simple pick and click?
> dreaming, dreaming?
>
> mark brown
>
> --
> Best regards,
> List mailto:list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
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