Re: [cobalt-users] anonymous ftp on raq 4I

[Paul Jacobs <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 08:44 PM 1/29/2002, you wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Paul Jacobs wrote:
> > >see it.  Show me the scalability.
> >
> > Try 500 real orders a week, and 1000's of hits just browsing...
>
> That's one order every 20 minutes, hell, a pocket calculator can handle
> that :P

Well according to you access can not handle half of that?


> And a hit every few minutes....big deal

Every hit needs to be generated from the database, so it is a big deal!.


> > I am trying to show you that it is possible to run access in a production
> > machine and it will respond in a timely manner to you, granted SQL is far
> > faster, but for small sites SQL is way over kill.
>
> And the scalability is where? When the site gets really big and mega hits
> what do you do ? redesign the entire thing all over from scratch again to
> now use SQL ?

Re-design?.... no you change the data source in the cold fusion engine to 
read SQL, and up size access in to SQL.


> > Now take you head out of your ass and put a load on the site above if you
> > don't belive me.
>
> Going around challenging people to break your server isn't too bright imho

It will not break IMHO.


> > Red hat cryes fowl when windows 2K wins, saying " we did not "tune" it 
> right.
>
> No, they cry foul when the benchmarks focus on a particular type of test
> case that does not represent real works usage, it's easy to serve some
> kinds of content, harder to serve others...And application flexability far
> outweighs raw speen in anycase, most web servers are considerable
> overpowered for basic needs to start with..

That is because the ADMIN'S do not know how to get the most out of there 
machines.


> CPU power is dirt cheap, design and implimentation labor, upgrade,
> support, and software licencing are where the costs are.
> >
> > >And, quite frankly, you're claims of "you have to know what
> > >you're doing" amuse me.  Learn Unix.
> >
> > Why when windows can do most of what unix can?
>
> If yo spend a fortune, it might so many of the things, but it will never
> to *all* , only many, or some...and it will cost you

You get what you pay for man!.....

Oh, just to let you know... I am back doing "data recovery" on all types of 
media, and all the internal network stuff as well, working on getting our 
website in-house.

This means I get to see all the FUC*up's from all OS platforms, some days 
it is windows ME in dell's, but most of the raid's are on red hat with the 
super block spanned across 3 physical drives.... and this is something the 
user does..... dumb, dumb, dumb..... but give a newbie a chance to do 
something and he will.

Oh, the company is http://www.adv-data.com (Shameless Plug) :)


> > > > That is not was SUN says about the cobalt boxes.... Gee could there
>
> I admit SUN does assume a certain level of competance on the part of their
> end users, like the ability to follow simple directions, Havn't seen a
> cobalt for dummies book yet...

They should make one for people like you and me :)


> > > > marketing people be getting worse than microsoft's?, or do they 
> just flat
> > > > out LIE....Noway sun LIE to sell product... it's un-heard off .
>
> Hmm, no where on sun documentation do i see the words "can be administered
> by an idiot" ;)

Talk to there sales people, they say something different.

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