Re: [cobalt-users] Support, Warranty and Hype

[David Thurman <dthurman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

on 1-2-02 12:47 PM, Derek Schwab at derek@xxxxxxxxxxxx was reported to have
made a statement that said this:

> It illegal if you don't own a license for it thought.  Sure, you can buy a
> Dell machine and install windows 200 or whatever you want on it.  But, if
> you don't pay for a license, it's illegal.
>   -Derek

If they ship the disk out to you free or you pay for it, and the box is a
Raq whatever, does that not constitute you have purchased the license. I
install Win2k on a box of my choice because I bought the OS. So if I have a
Raq3 and put say just Redhat on it, that I am in violation?? I think Bruce's
statement leans on advertising that you need to buy a Raq4 for Raq4 OS. Not
convinced...

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Thurman" <dthurman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Support, Warranty and Hype
> 
> 
>> on 1-2-02 8:41 AM, baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx at
>> baltimoremd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx was reported to have made a statement that
> said
>> this:
>> 
>> Why would it be "Illegal" to place Taq4 OS on a Cobalt box of any type. I
>> would like to see the paragraph from Sun/Cobalt that states you are in
>> violation. If what Bruce says is correct, why then do people like Apple
> and
>> dell and the others allow you to place OS's of your choice on machines??
>> I am cornfused...
>> 
>>> Derek Serianni wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard that you can turn a RAQ3 into a RAQ4 just by
>>>> restoring the RAQ4 software to it.
>>> 
>>> Bruce Timberlake wrote in various messages:
>>> 
>>> This is "illegal" and violates the terms of the Sun Cobalt License
>>> Agreement... but, as a purely speculative discussion, it _should_ work
>>> since RaQ3 and RaQ4 use almost identical hardware.
>>> 
>>> There really isn't much of a "warranty" anymore, now that the concept of
>>> free support has gone away.
>>> 
>>> Frank Loewe wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No problem.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a RaQ3i and restored Raq4 Software.
>>> 
>>> Bruce Timberlake wrote:
>>> Tsk tsk. Violating License Agreements, are we?  :)
>>> 
>>> Gerald Waugh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> RaQ3 and RaQ4 use the same hardware, and are both ix86 based
>>>> (AMD processor) Which makes the restore upgrade possible.
>>> 
>>> Bruce Timberlake wrote:
>>> If not legal. :)
>>> 
>>> Bruce.....
>>> It's really heart-warming to see the comments about License Agreements,
>>> when we know the support has changed, to say nothing of the fact
>>> that certain RaQ3/4 "features(bugs)" never have been fixed, and/or
>>> changed to work as advertised.
>>> 
>>> Thom
>>> 
>>> 
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>> David E Thurman
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