Re: [cobalt-users] DNS and/or Routing Problem

[Nell Bolen <nell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ah, well, gsh, you've really helped me out, and I thank you very much. Between you
and an interliant help page, also mentioned in the list archives, many of the dns
problems are solved. The secondary name server now passes the traceroute, as do all
other assigned IP addresses. The parent domain web and mail services work with and
without www prefix, but the other domain's web/mail services still work only with
the www prefix.

I added a domain for the secondary name server, as you suggested. I added domains
for the remaining IP addresses, entering two addresses for each domain, one with
www and the other without, which solved the resolution of assigned secondary name
server and assigned IPs problems.

The one domain/mail service that won't work without the  www prefix won't
traceroute without the www prefix either. Have removed the site, rebooted and
readded it. The info contained in both address files is identical except for "host"
-- one address contains www for host and the other is blank. This domain's IP
passes traceroute, and the domain name has been registered for about two weeks. Am
wondering, are there places in the file system that can cache outdated information
such as this?

The domain name is jackrussellcountry.com/www.jackrussellcountry.com (IP
208.142.72.142). If you call it with the www prefix, and if you mail with the www
prefix, it works. Without, it doesn't.

Of course, I cannot test the remaining IP numbers/domains to see if their domain
names resolve. These domains are housed elsewhere right now and use different name
servers until I can move their files and change their name servers to this new one.
Does that mean it's possible that their domain names/mail services won't work
without the www prefix either after transfer? If so, I have more problems to solve
and do not have a clue about what they are. Will change one domain's name server
(its files are already on the RAQ and ready to go) and see what happens in the next
couple of days. Again, thanks for your help. Am all ears for any more suggestions.

Thanks, Nell Bolen
nell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

flash22@xxxxxxx wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Nell Bolen wrote:
>
> but both of this second domain's services
> > won't work without the www addressing.
>
> Did you define the domain name alone and the domainname with the
> www. exactly the same way? (add address record..IP ?)
>
> If you are using a Raq4 you need to tell us, there are other things you
> can screw up ;)
>
> > Both name servers are registered. Primary name server is traceable, but the
> > secondary is not. Do I need to add a separate address for it in addition to
>
> You need to use that IP for a *web site* , not just for the nameserver...
> Doesn't matter what web site, just *some* site connected to that IP
> address...
>
> > the info I entered into the initial raq setup for primary and secondary name
> > servers?  The secondary name server is the one that traceroute gives
> > "connection refused" error.
>
> The nameservers in the Raq's network config have almost nothing to do with
> what you are setting up for DNS to serve domainnames, You need to add
> 'secondary nameserver record for domain' for your secondary, the primary
> should match the machines first IP address/name, if not, add that one too
> , this isn't quite right, but i assume you are also cheating a bit....sigh
>
> If you are really running a secondary nameserver that is on another
> machine, your configuration needs to be completly different than this ;)
>
> > As for the other assigned IP addresses, currently they are not listed in the
> > RAQ DNS panel -- took them all off some days ago when I first realized this
> > dns problem existed in order to simplify defining it. Will re-enter them and
> > try again. Thank you for the information.
>
> Remember , it's more important that you have used the IP's for a web site
> than that you use them somewhere in DNS, the server doesn';t setup the
> network for an IP address untill you actually use it for a web site...
>
> >
> > Could you suggest a method to get the second domain working with both www and
> > without www for web and email service? Have tried every combination I could
>
> This is still probably because you don't have them matching quite right,
> tho, there is another possible problem you may be running into, but i
> don't think it is the case ..yet
>
> ps: If you are wildly making changes to domain names, you may need to
> restart the email server , you can confuse it after a bit if you are
> changing things around in strange ways...
>
> Telling us the domain name will let us help you figure out what is/isn't
> right anout how you configured the nameserver records , as we can look it
> up and see how it responds, if you really are not comfortable putting it
> on the list you can email it to me ...Tho really, you aren't giving much
> away that someone couldn't probably figure out if they wanted to ;)
>
> Not knowing that, means i am guessing about what exactly you are doing...
>
> gsh
>
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