[cobalt-users] RE: [MASTER CD] [WHY ??] MAKE YOUR OWN QUBIC DISTRO

[Jason Ebacher <jasone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I like the feed back you guys gave, entertaining....

The reason cobalt is here is due to the fact any one that knows anything 
about turning on a box and reading a manual can run there products out of 
the box....simple and easy to get running, Setting up Redhat isn't hard but 
most "users" couldn't or would not want to do it. Plus not to mention 
Cobalt supports there product well, I, in no way was saying that we should 
stop buying cobalt products but like other lists around the net there are a 
lot of talented people in this list that could put there heads and fingers 
together and make a great simple distro like what the Qube or Raq has. What 
Cobalt sells is hardware, support, and easy to use and convenient, they 
aren't selling the OS they cant under the GNU public license, so the source 
is freely available anyone to use...who asks.

I think the Cube 's speed fits the needs for a server appliance, But I 
added 256 Mb of RAM to mine anyway, and as a desktop it wouldn't quite 
compete with my 800Mhz beige box ....but would be cool if it was 800 MHz 
and looked as they do...

Digitally Yours,
Jason Ebacher


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Today's Topics:

   1. RE:  [MASTER CD] [WHY ??] MAKE YOUR OWN QUBIC
       DISTRO (Jonathan Nichols)
   2. Re: Port Sentry Help (John Theriault)
   3. Re: Port Sentry Help (Jonathan Nichols)
   4. RE: Port Sentry Help (Sven)
   5. Re: HELP - FP 2000 extensions and form post error (Steve Buza)
   6. Re: CGI bin directory outside document root (Keith Davis)
   7. Re: Port Sentry Help (Tech )
   8. Re:  [MASTER CD] [WHY ??] MAKE YOUR OWN QUBIC DISTRO (Steve Buza)
   9. Re: HELP - FP 2000 extensions and form post  error (Gerald Waugh)
  10. 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![MASTER-CD]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
!!!!!!! (Cobalt User)
  11. Re: CGI bin directory outside document root (Revd leonard payne)
  12. [Raq2] AppleTalk restarting every 15 minutes (Glen Scott)
  13. Re: [Raq2] AppleTalk restarting every 15
       minutes - Fixed (Diana Brake)
  14. How to install crontab form php-script 
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jens_Peter_M=F6ller?=)
  15. Re: ssh on port 44658??? (shimi)
  16. [RaQ3] Compiling PHP 4 and Zend (Sean Chester)
  17. Re: [RaQ3] Compiling PHP 4 and Zend (Glen Scott)
  18. Raq3/Raq4 aliasing problems (Mark Boost)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:05:44 -0700
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Jonathan Nichols <jnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users]  [MASTER CD] [WHY ??] MAKE YOUR OWN QUBIC
 DISTRO
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>
>  > I personally would like to be able to buy the Qube from sun with out a 
OS,
>>  and add my own OS and stick a PCI video card in the slot and have a 
very
>>  unique desktop system, add a cd burner on the USB port and you got a 
cool
>>  looking BUT SLOW computer, a CPU update would help..
>
>I don't understand why you would spend money on a cool looking, but slow
>computer, I would expect that many folks would rather have a fast, evven
>if ugly box.
>
>But who knows, you may have opened up a brand new market for Sun...the
>company with Cool Looking Slow Computers.

That's when Sun makes them with the PCI video card, and a PPGA
processor socket. :)

--
-Jonathan Nichols
System Administrator
http://www.sitesthatsell.com
jnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Message: 2
From: "John Theriault" <cabal@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Port Sentry Help
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:17:41 -0500
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Ciantro" <nc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Cobalt Users" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:47 PM
Subject: [cobalt-users] Port Sentry Help


> Anyone know of any good tutorials or manuals on prot sentry?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nick
>

Check this article and see if it helps:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/security/portsentry1.html

J.


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:26:41 -0700
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Jonathan Nichols <jnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Port Sentry Help
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>Anyone know of any good tutorials or manuals on prot sentry?
>
>Thanks.
As Dan will say, check the archives. :) There's been a few of them
floating around, and searching for "portsentry" in the archives
(located at http://list.cobalt.com/mailman/listinfo/cobalt-users)
you'll find tons o' info on it, and lots of tips from previous posts.

prot sentry will bring up "pr0nsentry" and we certainly don't want
that.. (grin)
--
-Jonathan Nichols
System Administrator
http://www.sitesthatsell.com
jnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Message: 4
From: Sven <sven@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] Port Sentry Help
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:44:59 +1000
Organization: Enet21 Pty Ltd
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/security/portsentry1.html

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:48 PM, Nick Ciantro 
[SMTP:nc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] wrote:
| Anyone know of any good tutorials or manuals on prot sentry?
|
| Thanks.
|
| Nick
|
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Message: 5
From: "Steve Buza" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] HELP - FP 2000 extensions and form post error
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:59:59 -0400
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I had to modify the FP config files and change the SMTPHost to something
other than 127.0.0.1 to get it to work for me.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Young <ryoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: [cobalt-users] HELP - FP 2000 extensions and form post error


> This fix doesn't work.
> If I leave the email address out of the form, it will post to an internal
file.
> For the life of me, I can't get it to send the results of a form to an
> email address.
>
> At 10:12 AM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > When trying to post from a form (FP 2000) on a Raq 4i we get the
> > > following error:
> > >
> > > FrontPage Error.
> > > User: please report details to this site's webmaster.
> > >
> > >
> >http://list.cobalt.com/pipermail/cobalt-users/2001-February/035565.html
> >--
> >Dan Kriwitsky
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Richard Young
> Business Development
> Reliant Access Communications
>
> 770-921-7017 Ext 7201
>
> www.reliantaccess.net
> ryoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:19:18 -0600
From: Keith Davis <cache@xxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: Digital Odyssey Web Development
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] CGI bin directory outside document root
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Jamie Sue Winkelman wrote:
>
> I understand that for security reasons, the cgi-bin directory should be
> located outside the server's document root. Where is the best place to
> put this directory? How do I then call scripts located in that
> directory?
>
> I can successfully run scripts from within the server's document root,
> but wish to move the scripts outside the server's document root and have
> not had any luck. Any suggestions?

The idea is to put scripts outside of the domain to keep http clients
such as robots from reading a script and finding out where you read data
from and write data to. That cgi-bin is an alias and is is placed at the
same level as the domain root directory, 'web'. That's still a good
security measure if the script requires 0755 to execute. But that is not
the case on a RaQ, or on many Linux/Apache servers.

Place your script anywhere you want in the domain and give it only 0711
permissions.  Since browsers and other http clients are 'world' users
they can still execute the script, but they cannot read it or write to
it. Only the 'owner' can rw on that file.

keith


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:27:11 -0400
From: "Tech " <tech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Port Sentry Help
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>Anyone know of any good tutorials or manuals on prot sentry?
>>

www.psionic.com plus the docs included with the install package were all I 
used. I found them quite comprehensive and complete.

HTH


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Message: 8
From: "Steve Buza" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users]  [MASTER CD] [WHY ??] MAKE YOUR OWN QUBIC 
DISTRO
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:56:35 -0400
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>
> But who knows, you may have opened up a brand new market for Sun...the
> company with Cool Looking Slow Computers.
>
> thom
>

*chuckle*



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Message: 9
From: "Gerald Waugh" <gerald@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ryoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] HELP - FP 2000 extensions and form post  error
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:40:57 -0400
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> "Richard Young" <ryoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote
> > This fix doesn't work.
> > If I leave the email address out of the form, it will post to an 
internal
> file.
> > For the life of me, I can't get it to send the results of a form to an
> > email address.
> >
> I won't swear that this will work,
> but I have used it with success.
> And, frontpage did not seem to mind.
> Change the owner of all files under /web to the site admin.
> chown -R siteadmin *
was -r
> DO this from within the /web folder for the site.
> I believe the owner is currently nobody,
> So if it breaks something
chown -R nobody *

Sorry, that's -R not -r



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Message: 10
From: "Cobalt User" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "cobalt-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:28:40 -0300
Subject: [cobalt-users] 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![MASTER-CD]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
!!!!!!!
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hey Cobalts,

We just started the Cobalt "cracking" service.

I found out something weird, the directory "nfs(somthing)" is really big,
basicly it has all the Cobalt system in there (if you look the directory
tree), but, there's nothing related to the administration server.

So, I loged on my server using TELNET, went to the directory /usr/admserv/ 
-
there are a lots of hidden directories, all named .cobalt, where you'll see
basicly all the scripts. Then, I copied everything to another Linux 
machine,
and I'll try to run the services... hope it will run! We can't forget to
setup the APACHE SERVER for the ADM SERV (running on port 81).

If you know anything else, please, let me know.

Thank you,

Rafael Azevedo



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:05:59 +0100
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] CGI bin directory outside document root
From: Revd leonard payne <vicarage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

on 17/4/01 5:19 am, Keith Davis at cache@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Jamie Sue Winkelman wrote:
>>
>> I understand that for security reasons, the cgi-bin directory should be
>> located outside the server's document root. Where is the best place to
>> put this directory? How do I then call scripts located in that
>> directory?
>>
<snip>
> Place your script anywhere you want in the domain and give it only 0711
> permissions.  Since browsers and other http clients are 'world' users
> they can still execute the script, but they cannot read it or write to
> it. Only the 'owner' can rw on that file.
>

I would much prefer to have what Jamie wants as well. To have the cgi-bin
directory totally outside the web site - A Common cgi-sys directory for 
all.

My Raq is even worse in that it allows execution of a script from any
directory.

Anythoughts ladies and gents??

Revd Leonard


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:23:16 +0100
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [cobalt-users] [Raq2] AppleTalk restarting every 15 minutes
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi,

I am getting the following messages in my system log every 15 minutes:

Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34
for NET3.035
Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035

It seems Appletalk restarting, but I have no idea why.  I have searched the 
archives, and I found a couple of people with the same problem, but no
solution.

Any ideas would be grateful!

-Glen


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:49:48 -0400
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Diana Brake <diana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] [Raq2] AppleTalk restarting every 15
  minutes - Fixed
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 05:23 AM 4/17/01, Glen wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am getting the following messages in my system log every 15 minutes:
>
>Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: Swansea University Computer Society IPX 0.34
>for NET3.035
>Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc.
>Apr 14 01:07:00 www kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035
>
>It seems Appletalk restarting, but I have no idea why.  I have searched
>the archives, and I found a couple of people with the same problem, but no 
>solution.
>
>Any ideas would be grateful!
>
>-Glen

Hi Glen,

I too had this problem and fixed it using the method below from Jeff Lovell
*********Jeff's instructions********

Edit /etc/conf.modules and add these two lines to
make these messages disappear.

alias net-pf-4 off
alias net-pf-5 off

Jeff

--
Jeff Lovell
Cobalt Networks, Inc.
********end********

HTH
Diana


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Beautiful Sunny Florida		http://crestcommunications.com/
352-495-9359, 425-732-9785 fax


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Message: 14
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jens_Peter_M=F6ller?= <jpm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:10:01 +0200
Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Informationssysteme_Jens_Peter_M=F6ller?=
Subject: [cobalt-users] How to install crontab form php-script
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi,

I have a php script, witch creates
a text file and then executes the
system command "crontab", to install
the crontab from this text file.

It works, but php(apache-modul) runs as
"httpd" and installs the crontab for "httpd".

I wan't to install individual crontabs
for other users. OK, I can do "crontab -u username",
but this works only as root.

How can I solve this problem?
Or, how can I allow "httpd" to run
"crontab -u username"?

Best regards,
Jens Peter Moeller


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:20:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: shimi <shimi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] ssh on port 44658???
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Loryan Strant wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While doing a routine portscan of my RaQ4, I noticed that port 44658 is
> running SSH 1.5-1.2.27.
>
> I know for a fact that I didn't set that up, as I'm running OpenSSH 2.1.1 
on
> a completely different port.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas as to what this is?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Loryan
>


Uhm loryan... I am not sure if I had this with you, but I think it was
you. Back then I helped someone installing ssh, maybe it was you, and I
advised that person to run ssh on a port different than 22, simply because
at least part of the people would think that if 21&22 doesn't answer, they
don't have what to do or something (of course some are smarter, and will
spawn a shell from overflowed ftp's etc etc, but hiding is always good).

So, if it's you, maybe it's the SSH from back then?

- shimi.


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Message: 16
From: "Sean Chester" <seanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:17:02 +0100
Subject: [cobalt-users] [RaQ3] Compiling PHP 4 and Zend
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I am trying to compile PHP version 4, and this is the error i get when i do
a 'make'
anyone have any ideas why i get this error?



Making all in Zend
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/home/sites/home/users/admin/php-4.0.3pl1/Zend'
/bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=compile
c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..   -DXML_BYTE_ORDER=12  -g -O2 -c
zend-scanner.c
In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
                 from zend-scanner.c:2619:
/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [zend-scanner.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/sites/home/users/admin/php-4.0.3pl1/Zend'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:30:45 +0100
To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Glen Scott <glen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] [RaQ3] Compiling PHP 4 and Zend
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 12:17 17/04/01, you wrote:
>I am trying to compile PHP version 4, and this is the error i get when i 
do
>a 'make'
>anyone have any ideas why i get this error?
>

No idea.  But try the the newest version of PHP, 4.0.4pl1 and see if you
get the same problem.

Glen



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Message: 18
From: "Mark Boost" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:35:07 +0100
Subject: [cobalt-users] Raq3/Raq4 aliasing problems
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I have been tring to get one domain alaising to another, with the initial
domain staying in the URL display. I have tried so many different methods
and have had no luck. I can get one domain pointing to the other but it
always ends up with the domain it's pointing to in the url display not the
original typed.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards

Mark



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