Re: [cobalt-users] Macintosh, AppleShare IP Users

["Aaron Anderson" <aaronanderson@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Dave,

> Thanks for the comeback, Aaron.
>
> They are an assortment from OS 8.1 through OS 9.0.4.
>
> I get the impression that the Macs fail to receive, or lose, their DHCP
> leases, then I think they self-assign themselves an "Apple" IP in order to
> be able to share folders that they are set up to share.
---They will get the 169.254.xxx.xxx IP when file sharing is enabled and
there is no DHCP server.  I have ran into this problem many, many times.

> I don't know if it is germane, but, under the OS 9 control panel for File
> Sharing, there is a check box about "Enable file sharing clients to
connect
> over TCP/IP," and the same for Program Linking. This check box is not
> present in the OS 8 control panel. I have these check boxes turned off for
> the OS 9 machines, but perhaps I should turn them on?
---Don't check the program linking box, but check the 'enable file sharing
clients to connect over TCP/IP' box.

> I believe that when we go to Appleshare 6.3.3, we will get new client
> software for all the machines--I am just guessing from the literature.
---We have an Appleshare IP 6.3.3 server also.  I had problems with it at
first crashing all the time, but we worked that out.  Appleshare IP comes
with a copy of OS9, but I don't know about any client software other than
Apple network assistant.  Have you checked out OS X yet?  It's very, very
cool.

Aaron Anderson
Lockheed Martin
Systems Admin-Media Products and Services

> --Dave Shugarts
>
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >   What system are you running on your Mac's?  I have had similar
problems
> > at work and it was a OS9 issue with DHCP.
> >
> > Aaron Anderson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Shugarts" <Azimuth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:21 PM
> > Subject: [cobalt-users] Macintosh, AppleShare IP Users
> >
> >
> >> I have set up a Qube 3 to be the Web access, Web server and DHCP server
> > for
> >> a network that contains an Appleshare IP 5.0 server and about 12
> > computers--
> >> all Macs of various kinds (all PPC). All of the Macs are configured to
> >> obtain their IPs from a DHCP server.
> >>
> >> The Cobalt runs fine and talks to the Web fine, and when everything is
> >> running right, the Macs obtain the DHCP service and acquire an IP from
the
> >> Cobalt's block of IPs (e.g., 10.6.18.X).
> >>
> >> However, at various points in the day, they somehow "lose it" and begin
> >> using their own Apple-supplied IPs (e.g. 169.254.220.X) for no
discernable
> >> reason.
> >>
> >> When this occurs, no machine on the network can talk to the Cobalt,
> > although
> >> a machine coming in from outside can talk to the Cobalt, access all of
its
> >> admin functions through the GUI, and everything appears to be running
fine
> >> on the Cobalt.
> >>
> >> Nonetheless, because the Macs can't see the Cobalt, we wind up
rebooting
> > the
> >> Cobalt. At that point, it returns to normal--until the next episode.
> >>
> >> We have placed an order for the latest Appleshare IP 6.3.3, but do not
> > know
> >> whether this will make a difference.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts, anyone?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> --Dave Shugarts
> >>
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