Re: [cobalt-users] Get me off the ORBS list

[Sam <smoats@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,
	I have been following this thread for a while. You can block 99.9+% of the
dialup spam in my experiance (I don't have research to back this up just my
observations 
so feel free to disregard them) useing the MAPS RBL.  
	I personally do use orbs and I think it is a brilliant idea, there is no 
reason for a responsible sys-admin to operate an open relay.
       To handle dialup spam on a cobalt the maps DUL dialup list will stop
a large amount
of it from dialups with a negligable loss of real mail. (near 0) I can write
a cf fragment for anyone who is interested your you can get instructions
for the M4
method of implemention from http://www.orbs.org 


Sam
 

At 12:25 PM 12/21/2000 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 12/21/00 11:19:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>rikt@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
><< Internet community.  These rogue groups are gaining more power and more
> respect as relay raping gains in popularity, your upstream or colo
> provider could even be blackholed.  Now that is serious.
>  >>
>
>well the big ones like aol or sprint or quest etc do not use orbs and it is 
>unlikely they get blackholed...
>
>The fun thing is...when you close a relay a 'real psammer' will use a
program 
>where his dial-up acts as a mailserver, so you are in what can be compared
to 
>the 50's and 60's arms race....perhaps it is better to spend energy in 
>channeling UCE
>
>but then we need to go to another discussion list ,  this is not cobalt 
>related anymore
>
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