Re: [cobalt-users] Restore CD

["Zeffie" <cobaltlist@xxxxxxxx>]

> >> IMHO
> >> I built and sold systems for years and I never could get all that free
> >> software, free 24/7 hour support and hardware into 1 box and make
>money.
> >> personally I think dell and the like had agreements with microsoft that
> >> helped both of them and screwed the small to medium companys.
> >
> > When I was running a small PC-manufacturing company building about 100
> > systems a month we were members of the Microsoft System Builder >program
> > and got very good deals on software and Microsoft hardware.
>
> When we were part of the System Builder program about 4-5 years ago we got
> good deals on NFR MS Software and Hardware, but the eMOLP and MOLP
>programs
> were not very cost effective.  Buying licenses direct from MS or any of
the
> major distributors in a 10, 20, etc. packs made it very difficult for us
to
> compete with Dell, etc.  We had to use gray market licenses (i.e. surplus
> Windows licenses from other vendors) in order to stay competitive.

To my knowlege all grey market products from that time where all complete
fakes.  Even though many found there way into distribution.

>
> We got out of that business because the margins were getting so slim that
it
> wasn't working.  It is virtually impossible to build white box PC's at a
> profit these days.  That is long term, of course, because the support
costs
> are what kill you.

>
> I'm glad I'm not in that industry anymore.  Blah.

"I'm glad I'm not in that industry anymore"
I got out at P200/P2 and I can now say that everything I sold then and maybe
for you to depending on when you left the market, is all crap,  junk, or
trash except the case and the 3 1/2 floppy.  But they do make good routers
with lrp.

Zeffie