Re: [cobalt-users] Spam by Communitech?!

["Brian Hitchcock" <brianh@xxxxxxxxx>]

I really dont care about getting SPAM myself it is a quick delete no big
deal. But on the other hand when I get one of  my customers sending SPAM
from my network it is a diffrent story. I get messages from mad system
admins all over the net and SPAM cop etc. If I do not terminate my user I
rish the chance of other networks not excepting mail from my network. And
since I am an ISP I can not have that. So that is my problem with SPAM I
have a lot to loose from it.

Brian HItchcock
KC Web
----- Original Message -----
From: "pdg" <pdg@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Spam by Communitech?!


> <bad english, sorry I'm french>
>
> I agree with you.  Is just a email!
> Each week i receive the same ads from a real estate agent in my postal
> mailbox, i don't call the police, the tv and every body to say this guy
> spam my mailbox.  If you don't like what you get just trow it to the
> garbage.   We live in free country, based on the right to do money! so
lets
> people ads them self and try to make more money.  If you spam a big crime
> maybe your too stupid to understand that money rules the world, and
> spamming it's just a way to get more customer.  If you don't understand
> that leave the business or return to business school.
>
> At 17:00 00-06-17 -0400, you wrote:
> >I think you "guys" ought to spend more time running your businesses and
less
> >time trying to "rid the streets of scum". The "free" nature of the
internet is
> >providing you with an opportunity to earn a living; dealing with the
negative
> >by-products of a free network is part of the deal. Get yourself a
bandwidth
> >manager and move on. Limiting your "client"s smtp traffic to 1kbps will
> >sufficiently slow them so they wont bother.
> >
> >At 03:22 PM 6/17/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > > A few weeks ago Comminitech signed up with my company for a dedicated
ISDN
> > > connection. They used this connection for about 24 hours to SPAM. Once
I
> > > recieved complaints about this I terminated there account. They argued
with
> > > me that it was not SPAM etc. They also offered to pay my company $5k
to let
> > > them continue. I of coarse refused that would cost my company much
more
> > than
> > > that. That just goes to show you the type of company they are.
> > >
> > > Brian Hitchcock
> > > KC Web
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <mailto:chip@xxxxxxxxxx>Chip
> > >> To: <mailto:cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:34 PM
> > >> Subject: [cobalt-users] Spam by Communitech?!
> > >>
> > >> Given the recent discussion of the varying TOS relating to sale of
> > >> spamware,  I think the following info, while not completely on topic,
is
> > >> relevent.
> > >>
> > >> I (and about a half-dozen of my customers) have received spam from
the
> > >> Communitech sales department in the last week, inviting me to switch
my
> > >> website to their servers.  I have never had *any* communication with
them
> > >> prior to this, and from the remove instructions on their email, it's
> > pretty
> > >> clear that they stole Network Solutions handle database. So, in my
> > book, by
> > >> their upstream's definition, and by their own TOS, it's clearly spam,
and
> > >> clearly a TOS violation.  It's also, in my book, tacky to be trying
to
> >steal
> > >> my customers by stealing NSI's lists to get their addresses.
> > >>
> > >> I've already sent abuse complaints to all of their upstreams... but
it is
> > >> unlikely that these providers will cancel a lucrative T3 agreement
> > over one
> > >> small incident -- which, in my book, is unfortunate.
> > >>
> > >> However, there's a better idea I had, based on a suggestion on one of
the
> > >> anti-spam sites I saw.  I have encouraged Communitech to make a $500
> > >> contribution to their local food bank, and to also make a
contribution
> >equal
> > >> to 25% of the first year's revenues from any business obtained from
their
> > >> spamfest.  It will be interesting to see what kind of response I
> > get..  But
> > >> if anyone else has received a similar mail from them, maybe pressure
> > from a
> > >> few folks will encourage them to turn a despicable act into something
> > >> positive.
> > >>
> > >> Here's an abbreviated version of the spam I received (and I got
several
> > >> copies, with the names of several different salespeople, so it wasn't
one
> > >> isolated bad apple.)  If anyone wants the whole thing, email me
> > offlist and
> > >> I'll forward it.
> > >>
> > >> Am I reading too much into this, or is this one of the bigger
examples of
> > >> corporate stupidity that's been observed recently?
> > >>
> > >> Comments appreciated.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Dear Chip White,
> > >>
> > >> My name is Brently Gasper and I am a sales representative at
> > >> CommuniTech.Net.
> > >> I am contacting about your exciting website at
> > >> <http://www.awhw.com/>www.awhw.<http://www.awhw.com/>com.
> > >> I wanted to introduce our organization, CommuniTech.Net
> > >> (<http://www.communitech.net/>http://www.communitech.net).
> >CommuniTech.Net is
> > >> a top rated webhosting company,
> > >> servicing over 25,000 websites worldwide, and I have been authorized
to
> >make
> > >> a
> > >> special, one-time offer to you. First, let me give you some
information
> > >> about our webhosting plans:
> > >>
> > >> ( Selling job snipped)
> > >>
> > >> My special offer to you is that I can provide you with an extra month
of
> > >> service on a
> > >> 3 month plan, and 3 extra months of service on a 6 month term! Just
> > use the
> > >> promotion
> > >> code "FREEMONTHS" when placing an order online at
> > >> <http://www.communitech.net/order/>http://www.communitech.net/order/
> > >> Finally, we are having a contest throughout the month of June. If you
> > >> purchase a
> > >> new webhosting account in June, you will be entered into a drawing
for a
> > >> brand new 2000
> > >> Chrysler PT Cruiser! More information on this contest can be found on
our
> > >> website at
> > >>
<http://www.communitech.net/contest/>http://www.communitech.net/contest/.
> > >>
> > >> (More promotional crap snipped)
> > >>
> > >>  I apologize if this e-mail has offended you. If you wish to not
> > >> receive any more emails from me, visit
> > >>
> > >>
<http://offers.communitech.net/remove.php3?handle=CW3162>http://offers.co
> > >> mmunitech.net/remove.php3?handle=CW3162
> > >> and I will not e-mail you again. Otherwise, I hope to hear from you
soon!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >>
> > >> Brently Gasper
> > >> Sales Representative
> > >> b_gasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> <http://www.communitech.net/>http://www.communitech.net/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> PS. CommuniTech.Net also provides dedicated servers on the Cobalt
RaQ,
> > Sun,
> > >> and Intel
> > >> platforms on UNIX and Windows platforms for as low as $208.53/month.
I
> >would
> > >> be happy to
> > >> assist you in moving to a dedicated hosting platform and/or answer
any
> > >> questions you might
> > >> have about dedicated servers!
> > >>
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