RE: [cobalt-users] cobaltuserslist.com User lists for Cobalt Users... Speak now or forever hold your peace

["Yiannis Costopoulos" <yiannis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Zeffie,

	I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say, but if the whole
thing is about moving this list, or starting another one, why not do it? Do
you want us to tell you in advance if we are going to subscribe? I might. I
need to see it first. Everything that you say that you want from a list is
fine. If we all get together, we could even add some more. You will never
now, though, until you start and set it up. Every beginning is difficult.

	If you think, you have the time and resources for a list, start it, let
people know about it, keep for some time, and if you get enough subscribers,
fine. If not, shut it down, learn from it for the next time, and move
forward.

	More than half of the people in this list, I think, would start a new list,
or migrate the existing one, if they new in advance that their list would be
a success. I think that the most important thing is to start the list. If we
manage to create a strong user community, that is using two or more lists
simultaneously, then the two or more moderators/managers/hosts can sit down
together, talk and decide to merge them into one.

	And one more thing. If someone hosts/manages a list, I won't mind some
advertising as long as it's not intrusive. If I receive one ad-message for
every 10 posts, it is intrusive. If I receive a monthly "newsletter" about
new products/services/packages or whatever is not the end of the world.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Zeffie
> Sent: 11 May 2004 09:58
> To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [cobalt-users] cobaltuserslist.com User lists for Cobalt
> Users... Speak now or forever hold your peace
>
>
> <sig line on the block>
> http://www.cobaltuserslist.com User lists for Cobalt Users
>
> I'm ready to toss in the towel after putting up with all this crap from
> people that have done nothing but talk.
>
> I would like to see a user list that allows for both the ability
> to suggest
> it's members for work and provide free advice/help in an enviroment that
> allows for learning.
>
> I would like to see a user list that allows for the proper building and
> testing of the software we need to keep the boxes going until
> 2008...  which
> will be the end of Enterprize 3...
>
> I would like to see a user list where consultants can help the
> community and
> be rewarded not only via a reasonable sig but on a common page or
> pages that
> don't try to compare pricing and products but instead allow the
> visitor easy
> access to all the participating companies. perhaps by catagory...
>
> I would like to see a user list that allows for the better
> understanding of
> how the operating system really works and how it was built and how we can
> build the next system...
>
> I would like to see a user group that can search it's archives with some
> better tools then htdig.
>
> I would like to see a user list that would contain quailty "how to" guides
> that are more then the basic gnu INSTALL!!!!  Ie: "./configure make make
> install"  ... and I don't mean explaining how to download and un-tar it!
>
> I would like to see a user list that knows what a spec file is.
>
> I would like to see a user list that has some files.
>
> I would like to see a user list that has a list of important fixes.
>
> I would like to see a user list that could provide it's own security
> systems.
>
> I would like to see a user list where jeff would put my name in
> his sig more
> often.
>
> I would like to see a user list that has a few webpages more then mailman
> provides.
>
> I would like to see a user list where the users can use the boxes to learn
> and not get hacked at the same time.
>
> I would like to see a user list that I could ask the most important people
> to the long term life of the servers, into...
>
> I would like to see a user list that allows for a future...
>
> The wonderful cpanel box that it's on now is having a wonderful time not
> working correctly and I'm sure cpanel will have it fixed in no
> time.... but
> i'm not sure anybody wants the same things I do... hence i just don't know
> if I should bother...
>
> So if this sounds like something you might want to be a part of, now would
> be a good time to make a post and say so.  If I don't hear
> anything, I won't
> open it...
>
> If you want this to happen,  you need to post that you do.  If
> you don't...
> do nothing...
>
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