Re: [cobalt-users] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists [SCANNED]

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On 5/4/04 3:12 PM, "Craig Bernstein" wrote:

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Well everyone is welcome to join CobaltFacts mailing list as an alternate
support outlet. You can join by going to:

http://list.cobaltfacts.com/mailman/listinfo/cobaltfacts/

I know Ryan has some alternate lists up also. Maybe cobaltfacts could be a
way point to others who knows, but for Sun to say see ya to even the Cobalt
550 users in this way is just another way of saying thanks for your money
pal, see ya!!

So what's next, no more updates? This mentality burns me!!! Sun has a decent
following on Sun/Cobalt users. This "good will" will no doubt drive me to
purchase a "Sun" server for sure.

As for some asking for certain things of the list, sorry, I am sure it's not
the majority. 

Thanks...

> Because the unplanned outage of the Cobalt lists this weekend seems to have
> caused another flurry of "what now?" emails, I guess it is time to address
> this issue for good.
> 
> I think that it is time for these lists to go away.  Several reasons for this:
> 
> 1) RaQ 550, the last Sun Cobalt branded product, reached its End of Life in
> February 2004.  Sun has committed to certain support guidelines as part of our
> EOSL policy, including maintaining the knowledgebase and Support Forums
> located at http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/ for three full years.
> 
> 2) I have had an ongoing problem with users of the lists demanding that I
> delete or modify their posts in the list archives.  I have been unable to come
> up with an answer to those requests that satisfies the users, me, and the
> maintainers of Sun's Privacy Policy.
> 
> 3) The system on which the lists are hosted is not getting any younger, and as
> many of you noticed this weekend is not very reliable.  It is probably not
> going to be replaced -- see item #1 above.  Virus and spam traffic into the
> server is also out of control and it would require significant effort to put
> decent filtering in place and then maintain the filters indefinitely.
> 
> My plan is to shut the cobalt-users, cobalt-security, and cobalt-developers
> lists down on Friday, May 14.
> 
> I am open to suggestions about other ways Sun can continue to support the
> Cobalt user community.  One option already mentioned has been a Sun Cobalt
> area on the BigAdmin systems administration portal located at
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/.  Mailing lists, unfortunately, are not a feature
> of BigAdmin, but I would like to hear the user community's feedback on the
> portal and will be glad to follow up with that team if there is an interest.
> 
> Please feel free to send me any comments or questions.  Thanks...

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Thanks!!
David Thurman
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