RE: [cobalt-users] DNS issue...am I going mad?

["David J. Duffner - NWCWEB.com" <cobalt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Jacobs
>Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:14 PM
>To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [cobalt-users] DNS issue...am I going mad?
>
>
>Hi all
>
>Well, after puzzling over this one I'm completely stuck.
>
>http://www.davidjones.uk.com
>
>I moved it from one box to another and it didn't work as 
>anticipated.  I've now amended the nameservers to point at
>the right ones and I still can't make head nor tail of it.
>
>I do a DNS check and it shows it's pointing to:
>
>ns.redcatmedia.net (212.67.196.157)
>ns2.redcatmedia.net (212.67.196.157)

	Have you checked the DNS on this box, and is it a
RaQ?  If it's not set to send out updates on a reasonable
basis, as others have suggested it may not have fully 
propagated yet.

>I use www.checkdns.net and it also checks the www server and I 
>get this:
>
>Checking HTTP server www.davidjones.uk.com [212.67.197.197]
>HTTP server www.davidjones.uk.com[212.67.197.197] answers on port 80

	DNS Reports, as other suggested, is pulling the same
info.  You'll note near the top these came from a 'centralnic.net',
which may not be updating records (or fast enough at least). 

>197 is the old box and it's been deleted from there through 
>the GUI and all the DNS records as well.  Nothing should be
>pointed at the 197 (ns.mediamarks.net) box at all.

	GUI/DNS records 'on the old box' or are you referring to 
changes on the .157 box that the DNS searches are hitting?  Since
all RaQ GUI's look the same, you may want to re-check and be sure
that you deleted everything from the old RaQ and have the correct
settings on the new.  Then you're at the mercy of propagation, so
you may not see results in seconds.  If an NS has remained the 
same through all of this, you could see updates quickly since you're
serving DNS from your own box.  If you changed the NS's in any
fashion recently, those have to propagate as well and could be
causing the delay.

>It is definitely set up on the 157 box.  I've deleted it and 
>re-added it. I've checked my httpd.conf file, I've restarted
>the web server through ssh and still the site just goes back
>to ns.redcatmedia,net (the 157 box).

	Two things I can think of, the RaQ3/4 used to drive me nuts 
as I'd miss one small but obvious setting and it'd default back 
to the primary website (if we're talking virtual sites and not
ones with dedicated IP's on your server).  I'll raq my brain to 
remember, but it's been awhile...

	Second would be that you mention deletions, re-adds, etc.
all that causes additional DNS zone updates to come out, which 
may bog down your changes being processed somewhere in the World.
But, all these changes you mentioned in the last paragraph, if 
they were done on the 'new' server home for the site, would have
no bearing as the World still has records that things are supposed
to be on the original server's IP address.

	Sometimes it's better to stop, take a breath and go step by
step on all settings to ensure you didn't miss something.  It's 
happened to the best of us!

	Wait a sec... I just tuned in the website.  Are you serving 
any sites from the same IP's as your NS's?  Normally you'd have a
site like www.redcatmedia.net with an IP and have virtual websites
linked to that... Possibly that's confusing things?

	HTH!

      David J. Duffner
      VP Operations
      NWC Corporation
      NWCWEB.com
      
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