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e: [cobalt-users] Admin site limits - long


From: Jeff Lasman <jblists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cobalt-users] Admin site limits - long
Reply-To: cobalt-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

At 03:32 PM 3/12/00 -0800, you wrote:

>I've had direct experience with the Admin limits on the Raq2. Note, this
>is for the Raq2 only, I don't have any idea if things will work the same
>on any other machine.

Certainly the limits are the same; they're linux limits.
*grin..yup..so it always seemed funny to me why Cobalt would market this machine to Linux "newbies" (me) and never inform us of this limit..all the time saying the machine can hold 200 domains and never a work-around for the group limits...except for creating site admins. What if an owner/siteadmin decided you didn't need to be a "user" on his domain? Off into his trashcan I go..:) I give many of my site owners siteadmin status so they can view stats and set up mailing lists etc. from the web. In actuality, I maintain their web site. I wouldn't want to be deleted by some owner because he got curious or confused. 


>I never use admin for a virtual site. He is only used for the maintenance
>of the Raq2. So admin2 was assigned sites 1-25, admin3 sites 26-50, admin4
>sites 51-75, etc.
>This makes it easy for me to remember which admin is used for a given
>site, and prevents the assigning of admin# to to many groups (the basis of
>this problem anyway..:). Creating a site through the GUI always places
>admin as a user in that group. So, I edit the group and group- files to
>take admin out and insert the appropriate admin# for each site.

So I presume you replace:

site11:x:122:admin

with:

site11:x:122:admin2

(for example) for each site.  Is that correct?
*sheepish grin here...there I was writing out examples and forgot to give a real life one...thanks Jeff, you are correct. 




>Because admin is not in lots of groups by default, my maintenance of these
>files does not have to be done on a daily or even weekly basis. Once set
>up, I find that I don't use the GUI interface for a given domain very
>often, because many of our clients like to do their own work, and most of
>my work is done through FTP just updating sites. You don't even have to
>update new sites right away unless you yourself are going to be
>administering/FTPing to them. Siteadmins are not affected by which of your
>own admins also has access..:)
>
>Suggestion: when editing the group/group- files...be sure to run diff
>afterwards to make sure you did exactly the same thing to each file. They
>must mirror each other, exactly.

If both files need to be the same, then presumably you could just edit
group and then do:

# cp group group-
gosh..I learn something new every day...:) I love this list. This one tip will make my life much easier....and my partner won't have to listen to my little cheers of joy because I was able to edit the shadow file without mistake the first time...*grin. Or the groans that are almost as common..;) 



Wouldn't this work?  It's certainly a lot quicker and a lot more foolproof
(and it DOES retain the proper file permissions for group- as opposed to
group).

>I'm sorry for the length, but I'm hoping the explanation will help and
>find it's way to the archives.

Great idea!

>Beautiful Sunny Florida         http://crestcommunications.com/

Unless the north central Florida climate has changed a lot since I lived in
Gainesville in the 60s, I'd argue that my home in the southern California
desert gets a lot more sun (though it did rain here almost every day for
about a month approx. Feb 9th through March 8th).  Have you ever gone to
Doug's Dairy Twirl in Gainesville for an ice-cream cone?  There was an
original Doug, about 35 years ago; I remember him well.  I should be in
Florida this summer; maybe we'll say hello <smile>.
You may get more sun..:):) but that doesn't detract from the fact that we get LOTS too..:):) and our rains sure go a long way towards preventing that desert situation you mention...*VBG I know exactly where Doug's Dairy Twirl USED to be...I never stopped there myself. If you haven't been to Gainesville in the past 5-10 years... you may not recognize it. I've been here for 15 years now, and it's just about to outgrow my preferred town size. But hey..still a great town..:)
I would be tickled if you say hello while here..:) As a Linux newbie and reader of this list, I've always been educated by your posts, and I have your info on file if I ever need your expertise..:) 

thanks Jeff..:)

Diana



California.  Eureka!  I have found it <smile>.

Jeff

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