[cobalt-users] FW: [PHP3] Cobalt Raq

[Kris Dahl <kris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This guys just made an *outstanding* post on the php mailing list.

-k

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From: Ron Chmara <ron@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:07:59 -0700
To: "Michael T. Halligan" <mhalligan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "php3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <php3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PHP3] Cobalt Raq

"Michael T. Halligan" wrote:
> I've seen companies offering leased raq's with php.. check
> out the php.net hosting list.. but be careful with the raqs.. i personally
> don't see the value in them.. i was checking them out @ linux world..
> basically they're a somewhat slow processor, slow hard drive.. and
> highly priced.. i couldn't see paying the $1k+ for it when i could
> build a dual celeron 466 box with a $171 (pricewatch) 2u rackl case,
> 256mb ram and a large udma hard drive (+ cheap cdrom/video card & 2
> eepro100 nics) for about $1k.. then just install redhat or something
> on it myself..  the raq looked pretty flimsy.

Let's say you're a fairly talented individual with Linux, with hardware.
You have to buy parts, ship them in, install the OS, build a web gui
for the OS, stick it all in a 2U height device, burn a failsafe kernel
to a ROM (for backup /boot loading), and configure squid/apache/mail/dns
etc. Make the OS invisible, so it's fairly user-hidden, and make the
entire thing re-configurable within 15 minutes from a web browser.

Assuming it only takes you 8 hours to do all that, and a decent linux
admin (you) will cost, freelance, up to $100 an hour, that's now $1800 for
your box, which has twice the ongoing rack cost for space....

The value is not in the components, it's in the *integration* of the
components. It's in building a linux box not for linux admins, but
for the kind of ISP folks who think GUI's are just dandy, and want
a minimum of tech issues for hosting lots of sites, in a small form
factor.

-Bop

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