Re: [cobalt-users] Qube2 Bcc: issues.....con't.

[Jeff Lasman <jlasman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 09:34 AM 1/4/00  Jason Aspinall wrote:

> Further to my Bcc: posting, laughably it would appear that my subscription
> to this Cobalt list is also causing the mail to divert through to the admin
> account

Now let's look at your headers and see if we can figure this out...

> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>  by mail.lion-breath.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA08957
>  for <postmaster@localhost>; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:18:25 GMT
> Received: from pop3.mail.demon.net
>  by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-4.7.4)
>  for postmaster@localhost (multi-drop); Tue, 04 Jan 2000 17:18:26 +0000
> (GMT)
> Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for
> jaspinall@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>           id 947005839:20:00067:8; Tue, 04 Jan 2000 17:10:39 GMT

Looks like you're receiving your email using fetchmail from your demon 
dialup account.  Is that correct?

If so, can you instead have demon send you the email via smtp (as I recall, 
that's the demon default, is it not)?

That would solve the problem, as then you'd get the "envelope".

You also wrote:

> Therefore the Qube *cannot* be handling the Bcc: fields correctly.

The Qube never got the "Bcc:" field; it isn't transmitted.  And by the time 
the email is put into the "pop box", the header is thrown away, so you've 
irretrievably lost the header-information.

Can demon be configured to give you the envelope Sender information in a 
header it adds before placing the mail into your "pop box"?  If so, you can 
sort (procmail is fine) based on that field.  If not, then you'll have to 
sort (again, procmail would work) based on either the list-identifier in 
the "Subject:" field or the "To:" and/or "Cc:" field (which is almost 
always equal to the list-name and address).

For the latter of these two sort options, you'd have to maintain your own 
local list of who subscribes to what list, and use it to update your 
procmail filters.

The demon ability to send your mail via smtp is the best of the options, if 
it'd work for you.

(I've got a bit of experience with demon; I'm the American distributor for 
Mailtraq <www.mailtraqna.com>, a Windows-based mail-server written in the 
UK and with demon specifically in mind.)

Retrieving mail for multiple mailboxes from one "pop box" is fraught with 
difficulties.  You've found one of them.

I hope I've been at least a bit of help.

Jeff

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