RE: [cobalt-developers] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists

["Or-Or" <or-or.list2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Given the number of cobalt's still in use today, I definitely think some
form of an interactive online community should stay in place. Because the
cobalt architecture is so unique, even seasoned administrators need a place
for answers at times. At minimum, the archives from these mailing lists
should stay online (not that anyone's likely to find them in that mess sun
calls a website).


Regards, 

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cobalt-developers-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig
Bernstein
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 4:23 PM
To: cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cobalt-developers] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists


Because the unplanned outage of the Cobalt lists this weekend seems to have
caused another flurry of "what now?" emails, I guess it is time to address
this issue for good.

I think that it is time for these lists to go away.  Several reasons for
this:

1) RaQ 550, the last Sun Cobalt branded product, reached its End of Life in
February 2004.  Sun has committed to certain support guidelines as part of
our EOSL policy, including maintaining the knowledgebase and Support Forums
located at http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/ for three full years.

2) I have had an ongoing problem with users of the lists demanding that I
delete or modify their posts in the list archives.  I have been unable to
come up with an answer to those requests that satisfies the users, me, and
the maintainers of Sun's Privacy Policy.

3) The system on which the lists are hosted is not getting any younger, and
as many of you noticed this weekend is not very reliable.  It is probably
not going to be replaced -- see item #1 above.  Virus and spam traffic into
the server is also out of control and it would require significant effort to
put decent filtering in place and then maintain the filters indefinitely.

My plan is to shut the cobalt-users, cobalt-security, and cobalt-developers
lists down on Friday, May 14.

I am open to suggestions about other ways Sun can continue to support the
Cobalt user community.  One option already mentioned has been a Sun Cobalt
area on the BigAdmin systems administration portal located at
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/.  Mailing lists, unfortunately, are not a
feature of BigAdmin, but I would like to hear the user community's feedback
on the portal and will be glad to follow up with that team if there is an
interest.

Please feel free to send me any comments or questions.  Thanks...

-- 
...Craig


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