Re: [cobalt-developers] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists

["Paul Aviles" <paul.aviles@xxxxxxxxx>]

Craig,

I was unaware of the problem with the system over the weekend. In any event,
I wanted to thank you for maintaining the system all this time. I have found
the answers to many of my problems in the past and consider it an invaluable
resource of technical expertise and collaboration with some of the members.

If there is a way to host the list as an archive let's talk, I would like to
help at least like that. One idea and it really depends on the demand, is to
have a Board Forum and there are many out there for free. Let's wait to see
what people say and we can go from there.

Thanks again.

Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Bernstein" <cobalt-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cobalt-developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 4:23 PM
Subject: [cobalt-developers] Status of the Cobalt Mailing Lists


> Because the unplanned outage of the Cobalt lists this weekend seems to
have
> caused another flurry of "what now?" emails, I guess it is time to address
> this issue for good.
>
> I think that it is time for these lists to go away.  Several reasons for
this:
>
> 1) RaQ 550, the last Sun Cobalt branded product, reached its End of Life
in
> February 2004.  Sun has committed to certain support guidelines as part of
our
> EOSL policy, including maintaining the knowledgebase and Support Forums
> located at http://cobalt-forum.sun.com/forum/ for three full years.
>
> 2) I have had an ongoing problem with users of the lists demanding that I
> delete or modify their posts in the list archives.  I have been unable to
come
> up with an answer to those requests that satisfies the users, me, and the
> maintainers of Sun's Privacy Policy.
>
> 3) The system on which the lists are hosted is not getting any younger,
and as
> many of you noticed this weekend is not very reliable.  It is probably not
> going to be replaced -- see item #1 above.  Virus and spam traffic into
the
> server is also out of control and it would require significant effort to
put
> decent filtering in place and then maintain the filters indefinitely.
>
> My plan is to shut the cobalt-users, cobalt-security, and
cobalt-developers
> lists down on Friday, May 14.
>
> I am open to suggestions about other ways Sun can continue to support the
> Cobalt user community.  One option already mentioned has been a Sun Cobalt
> area on the BigAdmin systems administration portal located at
> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/.  Mailing lists, unfortunately, are not a
feature
> of BigAdmin, but I would like to hear the user community's feedback on the
> portal and will be glad to follow up with that team if there is an
interest.
>
> Please feel free to send me any comments or questions.  Thanks...
>
> -- 
> ...Craig
>
>
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